Benn Hamed beef

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Refers to Naz as a ‘European level fighter’


Naz told the papers Benn quit against Collins.
‘You can chop my arms and legs off, I’ll still come out fighting’


Benn told him to go and fight a McClellan, like Mayweather, and prove himself, and when he sees him he’ll rip his arms and legs off and throw them into the crowd!
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Eubank Sr has also recently referred to BJS as a ‘European standard fighter’ and Canelo a ‘truly world-class fighter’
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Benn had a point. As good as Naz was, Mayweather was in a different league and was dangerous at Super featherweight.
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THEBUTCH wrote: 08 Jun 2021, 12:59 Benn had a point. As good as Naz was, Mayweather was in a different league and was dangerous at Super featherweight.
Naz was a loud mouth, simply put. A little dog with a big bark. He was talented, but could have fought far better opposition. And Mayweather, he would have absolutely pasted him.

Naz was from that era of where it was standard practice for British elite talent to talk the talk but cherry pick opponents and build a legacy fighting European level, fringe world class, then one big fight makes a career etc. Naz had his big fight and look what happened, not only did he get schooled, he pretty much jacked the game in after that beating. He should be grateful it was Barrera and not a young Mayweather, the beating would have been a whole lot worse.
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ALI wrote: 08 Jun 2021, 14:34
THEBUTCH wrote: 08 Jun 2021, 12:59 Benn had a point. As good as Naz was, Mayweather was in a different league and was dangerous at Super featherweight.
Naz was a loud mouth, simply put. A little dog with a big bark. He was talented, but could have fought far better opposition. And Mayweather, he would have absolutely pasted him.

Naz was from that era of where it was standard practice for British elite talent to talk the talk but cherry pick opponents and build a legacy fighting European level, fringe world class, then one big fight makes a career etc. Naz had his big fight and look what happened, not only did he get schooled, he pretty much jacked the game in after that beating. He should be grateful it was Barrera and not a young Mayweather, the beating would have been a whole lot worse.
Come on Hamed won many world titles and defences.
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He was good but not elite, surely Barerra sealed his fate and legacy.

Although Hamed v Barerra was a big fight, especially to UK fans, it turned out to be a routine win for Marco. Just another good world class boxer added to his amazing win column.

Mayweather was another step up from MAB, so the maths don't augur well for Hamed.
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ALI wrote: 08 Jun 2021, 14:34
THEBUTCH wrote: 08 Jun 2021, 12:59 Benn had a point. As good as Naz was, Mayweather was in a different league and was dangerous at Super featherweight.
Naz was a loud mouth, simply put. A little dog with a big bark. He was talented, but could have fought far better opposition. And Mayweather, he would have absolutely pasted him.

Naz was from that era of where it was standard practice for British elite talent to talk the talk but cherry pick opponents and build a legacy fighting European level, fringe world class, then one big fight makes a career etc. Naz had his big fight and look what happened, not only did he get schooled, he pretty much jacked the game in after that beating. He should be grateful it was Barrera and not a young Mayweather, the beating would have been a whole lot worse.
If you believe Naz's version of events in training leading up to fight Barrera he done well to last the distance. I think his ego got far too big and he thought he was invincible but saying that his hands down style wasn't as effective as he fought better opponents.
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It was more effective against short guys or scared or shell-types.
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JamesPhilips wrote: 08 Jun 2021, 14:41
ALI wrote: 08 Jun 2021, 14:34
THEBUTCH wrote: 08 Jun 2021, 12:59 Benn had a point. As good as Naz was, Mayweather was in a different league and was dangerous at Super featherweight.
Naz was a loud mouth, simply put. A little dog with a big bark. He was talented, but could have fought far better opposition. And Mayweather, he would have absolutely pasted him.

Naz was from that era of where it was standard practice for British elite talent to talk the talk but cherry pick opponents and build a legacy fighting European level, fringe world class, then one big fight makes a career etc. Naz had his big fight and look what happened, not only did he get schooled, he pretty much jacked the game in after that beating. He should be grateful it was Barrera and not a young Mayweather, the beating would have been a whole lot worse.
Come on Hamed won many world titles and defences.
He was a part of the British WBO era of the 90's. The belt meant very little outside of the UK. He won the WBC against Soto, a very average fighter at best, and he won the vacant IBF against Billy Hardy, dare anyone big that up. When you say many defences your reffering to the WBO, and as i already said it meant little outside of the UK back then.

Listen i enjoyed Hameds career as much as the rest of British boxing fans, he was an entertainer and a great showman, he had great skills, but he was part of an era where it was ok to dine out on sub par oponents, acceptable to plot a way to the easiest world title, all the whioe avoiding the true elite. He was such a big mouth, he was in a way pressured into fighting Morales or Barrera, he chose Marco thinking his style wouod suit him better, but he underestimated him and was clueless when Barrera switched up his style that night.
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ALI wrote: 08 Jun 2021, 16:04
JamesPhilips wrote: 08 Jun 2021, 14:41
ALI wrote: 08 Jun 2021, 14:34

Naz was a loud mouth, simply put. A little dog with a big bark. He was talented, but could have fought far better opposition. And Mayweather, he would have absolutely pasted him.

Naz was from that era of where it was standard practice for British elite talent to talk the talk but cherry pick opponents and build a legacy fighting European level, fringe world class, then one big fight makes a career etc. Naz had his big fight and look what happened, not only did he get schooled, he pretty much jacked the game in after that beating. He should be grateful it was Barrera and not a young Mayweather, the beating would have been a whole lot worse.
Come on Hamed won many world titles and defences.
He was a part of the British WBO era of the 90's. The belt meant very little outside of the UK. He won the WBC against Soto, a very average fighter at best, and he won the vacant IBF against Billy Hardy, dare anyone big that up. When you say many defences your reffering to the WBO, and as i already said it meant little outside of the UK back then.

Listen i enjoyed Hameds career as much as the rest of British boxing fans, he was an entertainer and a great showman, he had great skills, but he was part of an era where it was ok to dine out on sub par oponents, acceptable to plot a way to the easiest world title, all the whioe avoiding the true elite. He was such a big mouth, he was in a way pressured into fighting Morales or Barrera, he chose Marco thinking his style wouod suit him better, but he underestimated him and was clueless when Barrera switched up his style that night.
I think you're being very harsh lol. He beat Tom Johnson for IBF, not Hardy. But beat many good fighters, though a lot were past their best. Is he a wanker? Certainly..... but he was super entertaining and more or less becoming undisputed champion is not to be sniffed at.... anyway these days he's a fat dwarf who spends most of his time in cafes lol
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ALI wrote: 08 Jun 2021, 16:04
JamesPhilips wrote: 08 Jun 2021, 14:41
ALI wrote: 08 Jun 2021, 14:34

Naz was a loud mouth, simply put. A little dog with a big bark. He was talented, but could have fought far better opposition. And Mayweather, he would have absolutely pasted him.

Naz was from that era of where it was standard practice for British elite talent to talk the talk but cherry pick opponents and build a legacy fighting European level, fringe world class, then one big fight makes a career etc. Naz had his big fight and look what happened, not only did he get schooled, he pretty much jacked the game in after that beating. He should be grateful it was Barrera and not a young Mayweather, the beating would have been a whole lot worse.
Come on Hamed won many world titles and defences.
He was a part of the British WBO era of the 90's. The belt meant very little outside of the UK. He won the WBC against Soto, a very average fighter at best, and he won the vacant IBF against Billy Hardy, dare anyone big that up. When you say many defences your reffering to the WBO, and as i already said it meant little outside of the UK back then.

Listen i enjoyed Hameds career as much as the rest of British boxing fans, he was an entertainer and a great showman, he had great skills, but he was part of an era where it was ok to dine out on sub par oponents, acceptable to plot a way to the easiest world title, all the whioe avoiding the true elite. He was such a big mouth, he was in a way pressured into fighting Morales or Barrera, he chose Marco thinking his style wouod suit him better, but he underestimated him and was clueless when Barrera switched up his style that night.
He won the IBF from Tom Johnson, think Hardy was 1st defence
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Hamed was the Dogs Cojones
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JamesPhilips wrote: 08 Jun 2021, 16:13
ALI wrote: 08 Jun 2021, 16:04
JamesPhilips wrote: 08 Jun 2021, 14:41

Come on Hamed won many world titles and defences.
He was a part of the British WBO era of the 90's. The belt meant very little outside of the UK. He won the WBC against Soto, a very average fighter at best, and he won the vacant IBF against Billy Hardy, dare anyone big that up. When you say many defences your reffering to the WBO, and as i already said it meant little outside of the UK back then.

Listen i enjoyed Hameds career as much as the rest of British boxing fans, he was an entertainer and a great showman, he had great skills, but he was part of an era where it was ok to dine out on sub par oponents, acceptable to plot a way to the easiest world title, all the whioe avoiding the true elite. He was such a big mouth, he was in a way pressured into fighting Morales or Barrera, he chose Marco thinking his style wouod suit him better, but he underestimated him and was clueless when Barrera switched up his style that night.
I think you're being very harsh lol. He beat Tom Johnson for IBF, not Hardy. But beat many good fighters, though a lot were past their best. Is he a wanker? Certainly..... but he was super entertaining and more or less becoming undisputed champion is not to be sniffed at.... anyway these days he's a fat dwarf who spends most of his time in cafes lol
Ok i stand corrected on that.

I am being a bit harsh, he was a talented fighter and he had a decent career, but there is slso truth in the points i raised.
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ALI wrote: 08 Jun 2021, 16:04
JamesPhilips wrote: 08 Jun 2021, 14:41
ALI wrote: 08 Jun 2021, 14:34

Naz was a loud mouth, simply put. A little dog with a big bark. He was talented, but could have fought far better opposition. And Mayweather, he would have absolutely pasted him.

Naz was from that era of where it was standard practice for British elite talent to talk the talk but cherry pick opponents and build a legacy fighting European level, fringe world class, then one big fight makes a career etc. Naz had his big fight and look what happened, not only did he get schooled, he pretty much jacked the game in after that beating. He should be grateful it was Barrera and not a young Mayweather, the beating would have been a whole lot worse.
Come on Hamed won many world titles and defences.
He was a part of the British WBO era of the 90's. The belt meant very little outside of the UK. He won the WBC against Soto, a very average fighter at best, and he won the vacant IBF against Billy Hardy, dare anyone big that up. When you say many defences your reffering to the WBO, and as i already said it meant little outside of the UK back then.

Listen i enjoyed Hameds career as much as the rest of British boxing fans, he was an entertainer and a great showman, he had great skills, but he was part of an era where it was ok to dine out on sub par oponents, acceptable to plot a way to the easiest world title, all the whioe avoiding the true elite. He was such a big mouth, he was in a way pressured into fighting Morales or Barrera, he chose Marco thinking his style wouod suit him better, but he underestimated him and was clueless when Barrera switched up his style that night.
He had great skills?
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Hamed was talented and had a great punch. But its true .. he cherry picked his opponents; his preference was lighter guys moving up or old fighters on their last legs ... Barrera was supposed to fit this perfectly on his way to Morales.

But we seen the writing on the wall against an aged and shop worn Kelly.

Mayweather would have brutalised and KO`d Hamed.
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tonyevs wrote: 09 Jun 2021, 15:51 Hamed was talented and had a great punch. But its true .. he cherry picked his opponents; his preference was lighter guys moving up or old fighters on their last legs ... Barrera was supposed to fit this perfectly on his way to Morales.

But we seen the writing on the wall against an aged and shop worn Kelly.

Mayweather would have brutalised and KO`d Hamed.
Come on man. He would’ve won by points. Never brutalised him. Outboxed him.
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JamesPhilips wrote: 09 Jun 2021, 16:27
tonyevs wrote: 09 Jun 2021, 15:51 Hamed was talented and had a great punch. But its true .. he cherry picked his opponents; his preference was lighter guys moving up or old fighters on their last legs ... Barrera was supposed to fit this perfectly on his way to Morales.

But we seen the writing on the wall against an aged and shop worn Kelly.

Mayweather would have brutalised and KO`d Hamed.
Come on man. He would’ve won by points. Never brutalised him. Outboxed him.
A young Mayweather at 130 was taking little guys off their feet left, right and centre.
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Length, speed, healthy hands, even bad intent.
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coghaugen11 wrote: 09 Jun 2021, 16:28
JamesPhilips wrote: 09 Jun 2021, 16:27
tonyevs wrote: 09 Jun 2021, 15:51 Hamed was talented and had a great punch. But its true .. he cherry picked his opponents; his preference was lighter guys moving up or old fighters on their last legs ... Barrera was supposed to fit this perfectly on his way to Morales.

But we seen the writing on the wall against an aged and shop worn Kelly.

Mayweather would have brutalised and KO`d Hamed.
Come on man. He would’ve won by points. Never brutalised him. Outboxed him.
A young Mayweather at 130 was taking little guys off their feet left, right and centre.
Yeah but Hamed is not easy to hit. I agree Mayweather would win but not in that manner.
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JamesPhilips wrote: 09 Jun 2021, 16:35
coghaugen11 wrote: 09 Jun 2021, 16:28
JamesPhilips wrote: 09 Jun 2021, 16:27

Come on man. He would’ve won by points. Never brutalised him. Outboxed him.
A young Mayweather at 130 was taking little guys off their feet left, right and centre.
Yeah but Hamed is not easy to hit. I agree Mayweather would win but not in that manner.
Yes he was, have you even watched his fight with Kelly? Floyd by KO and rather easily.
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JamesPhilips wrote: 09 Jun 2021, 16:35
coghaugen11 wrote: 09 Jun 2021, 16:28
JamesPhilips wrote: 09 Jun 2021, 16:27

Come on man. He would’ve won by points. Never brutalised him. Outboxed him.
A young Mayweather at 130 was taking little guys off their feet left, right and centre.
Yeah but Hamed is not easy to hit. I agree Mayweather would win but not in that manner.
Hamed was very simple to hit with an overhand right because he simply leaned back from the waist! So feint, step in and throw it and you’ve hit him with double impact. Most were too scared or too short until he fought better.
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Naz was no Herol Graham.
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tonyevs wrote: 09 Jun 2021, 15:51 Hamed was talented and had a great punch. But its true .. he cherry picked his opponents; his preference was lighter guys moving up or old fighters on their last legs ... Barrera was supposed to fit this perfectly on his way to Morales.

But we seen the writing on the wall against an aged and shop worn Kelly.

Mayweather would have brutalised and KO`d Hamed.
He was a product of the Sports Network / WBO era, when cherry picking and carrot dangling was the norm. Us fans got continuosly milked. Thats why it was so refreshing when Froch came along and showed how it really should be done. Josh Taylor is treading a similar path, and he is only getting started, so great to see.

And yes, i agree, a young Mayweather would have punished him badly, but lets be honest, Hamed would never have taken the fight.
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coghaugen11 wrote: 09 Jun 2021, 16:46 Naz was no Herol Graham.
No. He was better.
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ALI wrote: 09 Jun 2021, 16:59
tonyevs wrote: 09 Jun 2021, 15:51 Hamed was talented and had a great punch. But its true .. he cherry picked his opponents; his preference was lighter guys moving up or old fighters on their last legs ... Barrera was supposed to fit this perfectly on his way to Morales.

But we seen the writing on the wall against an aged and shop worn Kelly.

Mayweather would have brutalised and KO`d Hamed.
He was a product of the Sports Network / WBO era, when cherry picking and carrot dangling was the norm. Us fans got continuosly milked. Thats why it was so refreshing when Froch came along and showed how it really should be done. Josh Taylor is treading a similar path, and he is only getting started, so great to see.

And yes, i agree, a young Mayweather would have punished him badly, but lets be honest, Hamed would never have taken the fight.
Exactly :TU:
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