DAZN to buy BT Sport.

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Im Glad Fran.K is going into this battle happy. He has been on cloud 9 the last few weeks, should breeze through this legal shenanigans. 3 years ago this announcement would of had him drinking a bottle of scotch crying in the gutter, not today but.
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DAZN is a stupid name - WTF is a DAZN.
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stujones wrote: 04 Nov 2021, 19:07 DAZN is a stupid name - WTF is a DAZN.
Clearly you’re not down with the kids. Or, more precisely, you’re not in ‘da zone’ with the cool kids.
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Boxerbeetle wrote: 04 Nov 2021, 19:32
stujones wrote: 04 Nov 2021, 19:07 DAZN is a stupid name - WTF is a DAZN.
Clearly you’re not down with the kids. Or, more precisely, you’re not in ‘da zone’ with the cool kids.
Between DAZN, Boxxer (spelt wrong) and Triller (just sounds like a Michael Jackson song pronounced wrong) I'm definately not down with the kids.

I long for those HBO nights.
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stujones wrote: 04 Nov 2021, 19:59
Boxerbeetle wrote: 04 Nov 2021, 19:32
stujones wrote: 04 Nov 2021, 19:07 DAZN is a stupid name - WTF is a DAZN.
Clearly you’re not down with the kids. Or, more precisely, you’re not in ‘da zone’ with the cool kids.
Between DAZN, Boxxer (spelt wrong) and Triller (just sounds like a Michael Jackson song pronounced wrong) I'm definately not down with the kids.

I long for those HBO nights.
:o
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stujones wrote: 04 Nov 2021, 19:59
Boxerbeetle wrote: 04 Nov 2021, 19:32
stujones wrote: 04 Nov 2021, 19:07 DAZN is a stupid name - WTF is a DAZN.
Clearly you’re not down with the kids. Or, more precisely, you’re not in ‘da zone’ with the cool kids.
Between DAZN, Boxxer (spelt wrong) and Triller (just sounds like a Michael Jackson song pronounced wrong) I'm definately not down with the kids.

I long for those HBO nights.
You're not wrong. Imagine what Lampley, Merchant and crew would have said about all these silly women fights being shoehorned to the front of house. Embarrasing.
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garethhop wrote: 03 Nov 2021, 07:42
tony1234 wrote: 03 Nov 2021, 07:23 I wonder how the contracts are written, if the PL is with BT and they sell then that might become void so DAZN might not get the football which is what they really want.
I'm not sure why they want to wait until next summer as is the rumour to buy them , surely if they wanted BT and the money was right do the deal now ?
There will be a lot going on.

Premier League have to agree their rights being transferred and probably other sports too depending on the contracts, and the method of the buyout/takeover.

Presumably DAZN would go for something like Germany where they get a couple of branded linear channels on the Sky platform to show their content. It's not ideal for them because it costs them and puts them at Sky's control but we are absolutely conditioned in this country to watch Premier League on channels 401+ and that's where the money is.

By the way, this is all fast changing stuff. DAZN have already woken up to the challenges of actually making money from all of this, and they can't do it in the way that BT, Sky and Amazon did (in terms of flogging broadband to millions, other TV packages or even tvs like Sky are now doing, and just as an arm of retail for Amazon Prime).

They have focused in on Betting. But they are doing that just at the time that Government is pushing hard to decouple betting from football in the way that it is aggresively pushed now.

This will all take some time to play out.
And here's the next little twist. - https://www.ft.com/content/33f4b1f5-caa ... 75c3393c93
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garethhop wrote: 07 Dec 2021, 06:37
garethhop wrote: 03 Nov 2021, 07:42
tony1234 wrote: 03 Nov 2021, 07:23 I wonder how the contracts are written, if the PL is with BT and they sell then that might become void so DAZN might not get the football which is what they really want.
I'm not sure why they want to wait until next summer as is the rumour to buy them , surely if they wanted BT and the money was right do the deal now ?
There will be a lot going on.

Premier League have to agree their rights being transferred and probably other sports too depending on the contracts, and the method of the buyout/takeover.

Presumably DAZN would go for something like Germany where they get a couple of branded linear channels on the Sky platform to show their content. It's not ideal for them because it costs them and puts them at Sky's control but we are absolutely conditioned in this country to watch Premier League on channels 401+ and that's where the money is.

By the way, this is all fast changing stuff. DAZN have already woken up to the challenges of actually making money from all of this, and they can't do it in the way that BT, Sky and Amazon did (in terms of flogging broadband to millions, other TV packages or even tvs like Sky are now doing, and just as an arm of retail for Amazon Prime).

They have focused in on Betting. But they are doing that just at the time that Government is pushing hard to decouple betting from football in the way that it is aggresively pushed now.

This will all take some time to play out.
And here's the next little twist. - https://www.ft.com/content/33f4b1f5-caa ... 75c3393c93
Discovery already have Eurosport and the Olympic games so could be a better fit for buying than DAZN who just seem to be burning money
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Interesting turn of events
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Looks like DAZN will be the new allegedly, can't see many people paying 8 quid a month for bog standard Eddie shows once a month.
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Manchester Hitman wrote: 19 Sep 2021, 09:37 For what it’s worth, I got talking to a guy who works quite high up in the Tele Comms’ industry, at a mates function in the summer. I asked him about BT selling up the sports and he said he would be shocked if there board actually went through with a complete sale.

He believes they are looking for an investment/partnership arrangement rather than a takeover.

Guess the geezer was bang on then.
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Hearn should be outside the Sky building on his knees
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There were yet more Boardroom movements at DAZN last month and further talk of focusing on things like NFTs,

They've basically given up on the US in terms of competing with the big boys (ESPN+ and Peacock) and have a very unsure future in the UK.

Whereas in other parts of the globe, they are very much part of the mix.

Almost everywhere though, it's about football. And whatever DAZN and their cheerleaders may state, this was their route to that market, they wanted it and it's been totally choked off.
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tony1234 wrote: 03 Feb 2022, 06:04 Looks like DAZN will be the new allegedly, can't see many people paying 8 quid a month for bog standard Eddie shows once a month.
You don’t like the fights in the next couple of months? I think it’s great value for hardcore fans but there isn’t enough to get the many of the casual fans into paying for it each month.
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garethhop wrote: 03 Feb 2022, 06:34 There were yet more Boardroom movements at DAZN last month and further talk of focusing on things like NFTs,

They've basically given up on the US in terms of competing with the big boys (ESPN+ and Peacock) and have a very unsure future in the UK.

Whereas in other parts of the globe, they are very much part of the mix.

Almost everywhere though, it's about football. And whatever DAZN and their cheerleaders may state, this was their route to that market, they wanted it and it's been totally choked off.
Yep and the premier league/champions league rights renewals still have a few years to run on each deal.
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maverick23 wrote: 03 Feb 2022, 06:39
tony1234 wrote: 03 Feb 2022, 06:04 Looks like DAZN will be the new allegedly, can't see many people paying 8 quid a month for bog standard Eddie shows once a month.
You don’t like the fights in the next couple of months? I think it’s great value for hardcore fans but there isn’t enough to get the many of the casual fans into paying for it each month.
I think it's not as straightforward as that. I'm a massive boxing fan but my days of getting up in the middle of the night for anything but the biggest fights are gone.

So what I'll watch on DAZN are Jacobs Vs Ryder(good fight), Okoloie Vs Cieslak (good fight), Wood vs Conlan (good fight) and Martinez vs Warrington (we'll see).

I ain't paying an £8 a month subscription for those four fights to cover the first 3 months of the year. If you still do the getting up in the middle of the night, then it's much better value.
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garethhop wrote: 03 Feb 2022, 06:48
maverick23 wrote: 03 Feb 2022, 06:39
tony1234 wrote: 03 Feb 2022, 06:04 Looks like DAZN will be the new allegedly, can't see many people paying 8 quid a month for bog standard Eddie shows once a month.
You don’t like the fights in the next couple of months? I think it’s great value for hardcore fans but there isn’t enough to get the many of the casual fans into paying for it each month.
I think it's not as straightforward as that. I'm a massive boxing fan but my days of getting up in the middle of the night for anything but the biggest fights are gone.

So what I'll watch on DAZN are Jacobs Vs Ryder(good fight), Okoloie Vs Cieslak (good fight), Wood vs Conlan (good fight) and Martinez vs Warrington (we'll see).

I ain't paying an £8 a month subscription for those four fights to cover the first 3 months of the year. If you still do the getting up in the middle of the night, then it's much better value.
I haven’t gotten up in the middle of the night for any DAZN shows but I get up early on a Sunday morning, leave my phone in the kitchen to prevent seeing spoilers and normally enjoy 3/4 hours of boxing. I used to do similar with allegedly.

No casuals will be doing that but I think I’m getting good value for money and I’m just as excited by the 2 Super Fly fights coming up as some of the U.K. shows.
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maverick23 wrote: 03 Feb 2022, 07:01
garethhop wrote: 03 Feb 2022, 06:48
maverick23 wrote: 03 Feb 2022, 06:39

You don’t like the fights in the next couple of months? I think it’s great value for hardcore fans but there isn’t enough to get the many of the casual fans into paying for it each month.
I think it's not as straightforward as that. I'm a massive boxing fan but my days of getting up in the middle of the night for anything but the biggest fights are gone.

So what I'll watch on DAZN are Jacobs Vs Ryder(good fight), Okoloie Vs Cieslak (good fight), Wood vs Conlan (good fight) and Martinez vs Warrington (we'll see).

I ain't paying an £8 a month subscription for those four fights to cover the first 3 months of the year. If you still do the getting up in the middle of the night, then it's much better value.
I haven’t gotten up in the middle of the night for any DAZN shows but I get up early on a Sunday morning, leave my phone in the kitchen to prevent seeing spoilers and normally enjoy 3/4 hours of boxing. I used to do similar with allegedly.

No casuals will be doing that but I think I’m getting good value for money and I’m just as excited by the 2 Super Fly fights coming up as some of the U.K. shows.
DAZN app doesn't ruin it for you as well, even when you open the app.

Just gotta be careful of you're Sky Sports or BBC notifications.
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Dazn are dazone in the UK now. No sport apart from Hearn who is massively on the slide since his move from sky.
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Game Changed.
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unknownman79 wrote: 03 Feb 2022, 07:16 Dazn are dazone in the UK now. No sport apart from Hearn who is massively on the slide since his move from sky.
I think the quality of shows has actually improved a little since he’s gone to DAZN - they’re just not get the visibility they once did because they don’t have the Sky machine behind them.
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Did DAZN do this the wrong way. Should they have gotten other sports first?

Boxing is a niche sport isn't it?
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 03 Feb 2022, 07:24 Did DAZN do this the wrong way. Should they have gotten other sports first?

Boxing is a niche sport isn't it?
In Britain it's football first and the rest is just filler , the SKY model of many sports for one monthly price is embedded into people's minds now.
God knows what the upcoming fuel , tax rises , inflation etc will do for subscription numbers either
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The Shoulder Rolls will be off the Spectrum
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Apparently, it was DAZN who pulled out.

Citing the deal became uneconomical for DAZN.
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