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Re: Brits Who Looked Like A World Beater, But Never Made It.
Posted: 20 Dec 2022, 04:27
by MightyWarrior
Andy Holligan
Re: Brits Who Looked Like A World Beater, But Never Made It.
Posted: 20 Dec 2022, 04:36
by Ruthless-RKO
TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑20 Dec 2022, 01:18
Jav Khaliq. Got the IBO title at least and held it around the same time as Mosley/Forrest/Mayorga had the real belts. He definitely gets done by Mosley and Forrest but could he have beat Mayorga? Probably not. If he got a shot at Mayorga after Mayorga had beaten Forrest, i'd have given him a small chance. He was a decent boxer. James Hare was a good shout. He had a big win over Bergman I believe with a classy looking shot. Stopped by unheralded Cosme Rivera with many losses next in a very tough contest. Rivera was then destroyed easily and punched so hard by Judah that he started laughing. I don't think he knew what was going on. That showed the levels really.
He never got a chance at the big stage.
Couldn’t get the fights unfortunately.
His career is a ‘what if’
Re: Brits Who Looked Like A World Beater, But Never Made It.
Posted: 20 Dec 2022, 04:54
by skanksta
Kilburn wrote: ↑18 Dec 2022, 18:13
How about the late Dean Francis. He was looking so good before the shoulder issue ruined everything.
Yeah - he looked incredible.
Re: Brits Who Looked Like A World Beater, But Never Made It.
Posted: 20 Dec 2022, 05:14
by Noxy
Coco wrote: ↑19 Dec 2022, 21:05
forcefraser wrote: ↑19 Dec 2022, 20:29
Coco wrote: ↑19 Dec 2022, 19:31
It was 13'8 in those days
Wasn`t Ellis going to be the first billion dollar athlete?
That was the hype!
He was very over hyped too.
I can't remember if it was him or the Israeli heavy around at the same time(Roman someone) who was going to be the first!
Greenberg! He just seemed to disappear
Re: Brits Who Looked Like A World Beater, But Never Made It.
Posted: 20 Dec 2022, 05:20
by skanksta
I just thought of Vicious Victor Oritz - Oh yeah, not British - der !
Re: Brits Who Looked Like A World Beater, But Never Made It.
Posted: 20 Dec 2022, 05:56
by chinarich
Noxy wrote: ↑20 Dec 2022, 05:14
Coco wrote: ↑19 Dec 2022, 21:05
forcefraser wrote: ↑19 Dec 2022, 20:29
Wasn`t Ellis going to be the first billion dollar athlete?
That was the hype!
He was very over hyped too.
I can't remember if it was him or the Israeli heavy around at the same time(Roman someone) who was going to be the first!
Greenberg! He just seemed to disappear
https://www.boxingnewsonline.net/the-di ... greenberg/
Re: Brits Who Looked Like A World Beater, But Never Made It.
Posted: 20 Dec 2022, 07:16
by Noxy
Top read
Re: Brits Who Looked Like A World Beater, But Never Made It.
Posted: 20 Dec 2022, 07:16
by tony1234
Coco wrote: ↑19 Dec 2022, 21:05
forcefraser wrote: ↑19 Dec 2022, 20:29
Coco wrote: ↑19 Dec 2022, 19:31
It was 13'8 in those days
Wasn`t Ellis going to be the first billion dollar athlete?
That was the hype!
He was very over hyped too.
I can't remember if it was him or the Israeli heavy around at the same time(Roman someone) who was going to be the first!
He had a James Bond gimmick and looked the part and then it just fell apart
Re: Brits Who Looked Like A World Beater, But Never Made It.
Posted: 20 Dec 2022, 07:18
by tony1234
Horace Notice before injury curtailed his career would surely have got some sort of world title shot
Re: Brits Who Looked Like A World Beater, But Never Made It.
Posted: 20 Dec 2022, 07:33
by keithmoonhangover
tony1234 wrote: ↑20 Dec 2022, 07:18
Horace Notice before injury curtailed his career would surely have got some sort of world title shot
Re: Brits Who Looked Like A World Beater, But Never Made It.
Posted: 20 Dec 2022, 07:48
by Coco
keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑20 Dec 2022, 07:33
tony1234 wrote: ↑20 Dec 2022, 07:18
Horace Notice before injury curtailed his career would surely have got some sort of world title shot
His time came before the WBO and WBU, in those days he would have needed to win the European title for a shot.
He was British champ in a very weak era and just wasn't big enough at a higher level
Re: Brits Who Looked Like A World Beater, But Never Made It.
Posted: 20 Dec 2022, 07:49
by Controversial
How about Tony Sibson, commonwealth and european title holder and 3 time world title challenger? Unfortunate one of the shots was against Hagler, I think Hagler said once Sibson was the hardest puncher he faced.
Re: Brits Who Looked Like A World Beater, But Never Made It.
Posted: 20 Dec 2022, 08:24
by The Gratest
I used to love watching Pat Barrett, the man could bang. Unfortunately, he faced a slippery guy in Manning Galloway for the world title, wrong style.
Saying that, the champions around that time at light welter and welter were pretty impressive.
Re: Brits Who Looked Like A World Beater, But Never Made It.
Posted: 20 Dec 2022, 08:35
by Controversial
The Gratest wrote: ↑20 Dec 2022, 08:24
I used to love watching Pat Barrett, the man could bang. Unfortunately, he faced a slippery guy in Manning Galloway for the world title, wrong style.
Saying that, the champions around that time at light welter and welter was pretty impressive.
Yes I loved watching him too, good one punch finisher
Re: Brits Who Looked Like A World Beater, But Never Made It.
Posted: 20 Dec 2022, 09:33
by black panther
chinarich wrote: ↑19 Dec 2022, 05:10
dan28uk wrote: ↑18 Dec 2022, 12:17
Terminator666 wrote: ↑18 Dec 2022, 08:02
Scott Harrison- I know he won the wbo title but could have done a lot more.
a lot more drinking ?
Thats harsh to say that about his drinking.
How can you forget also that he could have also ruined a lot more packets of crisps too.
Re: Brits Who Looked Like A World Beater, But Never Made It.
Posted: 20 Dec 2022, 09:34
by keithmoonhangover
Controversial wrote: ↑20 Dec 2022, 08:35
The Gratest wrote: ↑20 Dec 2022, 08:24
I used to love watching Pat Barrett, the man could bang. Unfortunately, he faced a slippery guy in Manning Galloway for the world title, wrong style.
Saying that, the champions around that time at light welter and welter was pretty impressive.
Yes I loved watching him too, good one punch finisher
Me also. Loved watching him.
Re: Brits Who Looked Like A World Beater, But Never Made It.
Posted: 20 Dec 2022, 11:20
by Old bones Ian
Loose cannon Darren Dyer looked a good bet when turning pro after winning the 1986 ABA and Commonwealth games gold.
He then got matched with Del Bryan in his 2nd pro fight and lost on points, no shame there. But got shockingly stopped by Trevor Mortimer 3 fights later. Dyer managed a bit of a run, before some odd match making when he stepped up against Jorge Maysonet and got wiped out in 2 rounds, Maysonet may of been damaged goods but has a world class punch.
Oddly that loss lead onto Dyers best spell as a pro avenging his losses to Bryan and Mortimer and blowing away Ian John Lewis. But when Dyer tried stepping up again he was KO'd for a minor belt
Re: Brits Who Looked Like A World Beater, But Never Made It.
Posted: 20 Dec 2022, 11:34
by Deserter
Old bones Ian wrote: ↑20 Dec 2022, 11:20
Loose cannon Darren Dyer looked a good bet when turning pro after winning the 1986 ABA and Commonwealth games gold.
He then got matched with Del Bryan in his 2nd pro fight and lost on points, no shame there. But got shockingly stopped by Trevor Mortimer 3 fights later. Dyer managed a bit of a run, before some odd match making when he stepped up against Jorge Maysonet and got wiped out in 2 rounds, Maysonet may of been damaged goods but has a world class punch.
Oddly that loss lead onto Dyers best spell as a pro avenging his losses to Bryan and Mortimer and blowing away Ian John Lewis. But when Dyer tried stepping up again he was KO'd for a minor belt
Good blast from the past! Was it also Dyer who allegedly went after Honeyghan with a hammer in the gym?
Re: Brits Who Looked Like A World Beater, But Never Made It.
Posted: 20 Dec 2022, 12:54
by Old bones Ian
Deserter wrote: ↑20 Dec 2022, 11:34
Old bones Ian wrote: ↑20 Dec 2022, 11:20
Loose cannon Darren Dyer looked a good bet when turning pro after winning the 1986 ABA and Commonwealth games gold.
He then got matched with Del Bryan in his 2nd pro fight and lost on points, no shame there. But got shockingly stopped by Trevor Mortimer 3 fights later. Dyer managed a bit of a run, before some odd match making when he stepped up against Jorge Maysonet and got wiped out in 2 rounds, Maysonet may of been damaged goods but has a world class punch.
Oddly that loss lead onto Dyers best spell as a pro avenging his losses to Bryan and Mortimer and blowing away Ian John Lewis. But when Dyer tried stepping up again he was KO'd for a minor belt
Good blast from the past! Was it also Dyer who allegedly went after Honeyghan with a hammer in the gym?
Yeah Dyer hit Honeyghan with a hammer at the weigh in for Andy Till vs Wally Swift jnr.
I've not heard the reasons behind the attack though
Re: Brits Who Looked Like A World Beater, But Never Made It.
Posted: 20 Dec 2022, 13:05
by JamesPhilips
Never convinced with Mark Kaylor but many were
Re: Brits Who Looked Like A World Beater, But Never Made It.
Posted: 20 Dec 2022, 13:25
by Noxy
JamesPhilips wrote: ↑20 Dec 2022, 13:05
Never convinced with Mark Kaylor but many were
I wasn’t either, I always wanted him to do well though. I thought he was a cool cockney.
Re: Brits Who Looked Like A World Beater, But Never Made It.
Posted: 20 Dec 2022, 13:50
by stujones
skanksta wrote: ↑20 Dec 2022, 05:20
I just thought of Vicious Victor Oritz - Oh yeah, not British - der !
And he was a world champion - briefly WBC Champ.
I think most of his "looking like a world beater" was based on him giving DLH a black eye and Oscar basically saying Ortiz was giving him hell - that was though in the build up to the Manny Pac fight.
Re: Brits Who Looked Like A World Beater, But Never Made It.
Posted: 20 Dec 2022, 13:52
by margaret thatcher
ortiz looked excellent coming up and was world class for a time. offensively he was an elite fighter - look at how he bounced maidana and peterson and berto off the canvas. he just couldnt hold it together well when someone kept at him
Re: Brits Who Looked Like A World Beater, But Never Made It.
Posted: 20 Dec 2022, 15:04
by tony1234
George Collins till he stepped up in level
Re: Brits Who Looked Like A World Beater, But Never Made It.
Posted: 20 Dec 2022, 15:30
by wrighty
tony1234 wrote: ↑20 Dec 2022, 15:04
George Collins till he stepped up in level
Was that the allegedly welter he promoted the arse off and fed piss easy opposition?