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Coco wrote: ↑06 Nov 2023, 09:03

MasterG wrote: ↑06 Nov 2023, 08:37 AJs career is almost over so it would be wise him fight Francis purely for a big pay check to see him into retirement.

AJ will beat Francis

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑06 Nov 2023, 11:25

Coco wrote: ↑06 Nov 2023, 09:03

MasterG wrote: ↑06 Nov 2023, 08:37 AJs career is almost over so it would be wise him fight Francis purely for a big pay check to see him into retirement.

AJ will beat Francis

I think so too, which is why Hearn is gunning for it, huge payday with the potential of another again Wilder or Fury in the future.

jwfg wrote: ↑06 Nov 2023, 11:57

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑06 Nov 2023, 11:25

Coco wrote: ↑06 Nov 2023, 09:03

AJ will beat Francis

I think so too, which is why Hearn is gunning for it, huge payday with the potential of another again Wilder or Fury in the future.

IMO Fury will retire after the Usyk fight.

joshj909 wrote: ↑06 Nov 2023, 12:02

jwfg wrote: ↑06 Nov 2023, 11:57

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑06 Nov 2023, 11:25

I think so too, which is why Hearn is gunning for it, huge payday with the potential of another again Wilder or Fury in the future.

IMO Fury will retire after the Usyk fight.

Fury is 1/7 to retire after any given fight.

jwfg wrote: ↑06 Nov 2023, 11:57

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑06 Nov 2023, 11:25

Coco wrote: ↑06 Nov 2023, 09:03

AJ will beat Francis

I think so too, which is why Hearn is gunning for it, huge payday with the potential of another again Wilder or Fury in the future.

IMO Fury will retire after the Usyk fight.

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑06 Nov 2023, 13:05

jwfg wrote: ↑06 Nov 2023, 11:57

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑06 Nov 2023, 11:25

I think so too, which is why Hearn is gunning for it, huge payday with the potential of another again Wilder or Fury in the future.

IMO Fury will retire after the Usyk fight.

He might retire before the Usyk fight.

jwfg wrote: ↑06 Nov 2023, 08:49

MasterG wrote: ↑06 Nov 2023, 08:37 AJs career is almost over.

Really? I thought he wanted to fight to be the unified champion?

MasterG wrote: ↑06 Nov 2023, 13:19

jwfg wrote: ↑06 Nov 2023, 08:49

MasterG wrote: ↑06 Nov 2023, 08:37 AJs career is almost over.

Really? I thought he wanted to fight to be the unified champion?

AJ hasn't got many more fights let in him

jwfg wrote: ↑06 Nov 2023, 13:39

MasterG wrote: ↑06 Nov 2023, 13:19

jwfg wrote: ↑06 Nov 2023, 08:49

Really? I thought he wanted to fight to be the unified champion?

AJ hasn't got many more fights let in him

Yeah, but you don't like guy, so you'll forgive me for saying that you may be the slightest bit biased.

jwfg wrote: ↑06 Nov 2023, 13:39

MasterG wrote: ↑06 Nov 2023, 13:19

jwfg wrote: ↑06 Nov 2023, 08:49

Really? I thought he wanted to fight to be the unified champion?

AJ hasn't got many more fights let in him

Yeah, but you don't like guy, so you'll forgive me for saying that you may be the slightest bit biased.

MasterG wrote: ↑06 Nov 2023, 15:28 If I didn't like the guy I wouldn't have travelled from North York's to London to see him fight Washington.

He might retire before the Usyk fight.

jwfg wrote: ↑06 Nov 2023, 15:33

MasterG wrote: ↑06 Nov 2023, 15:28 If I didn't like the guy I wouldn't have travelled from North York's to London to see him fight Washington.

When was that?

jwfg wrote: ↑06 Nov 2023, 06:19

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑06 Nov 2023, 06:09

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑06 Nov 2023, 05:48

He must just love fighting, he has to have made plenty of money

definitely, has been one of the highest earners the past few yrs, and seems to have the Saudi bag too.

I would be absolutely amazed if it was Del. Ngannou ran Fury pretty close and some people think he won. I don't see him fighting a guy who's lost thirteen times, who barely anyone outside the UK has heard of. IMO, it'll be Usyk, AJ or Wilder, a padded nobody or a novelty fight.

jwfg wrote: ↑06 Nov 2023, 07:23

joshj909 wrote: ↑06 Nov 2023, 07:04

jwfg wrote: ↑06 Nov 2023, 06:19

I would be absolutely amazed if it was Del. Ngannou ran Fury pretty close and some people think he won. I don't see him fighting a guy who's lost thirteen times, who barely anyone outside the UK has heard of. IMO, it'll be Usyk, AJ or Wilder, a padded nobody or a novelty fight.

I guess we just have to work out who is the biggest name with the most padded record. Greg Hardy and Hasim Rahman Jr are two that stand out to me. Yoka is a beatable Olympic gold medalist so that would be quite a claim if he was to beat him plus he's a pretty big name in French boxing. Jarrell Miller would actually be fairly intriguing. Wilder is a bigger name but higher risk. You could them have someone like Dubois who has a padded record but we don't actually know if he's any good, smaller name than Chisora though.

It'll be AJ or Wilder.

Frostieballs wrote: ↑07 Nov 2023, 07:35

jwfg wrote: ↑06 Nov 2023, 07:23

joshj909 wrote: ↑06 Nov 2023, 07:04

I guess we just have to work out who is the biggest name with the most padded record. Greg Hardy and Hasim Rahman Jr are two that stand out to me. Yoka is a beatable Olympic gold medalist so that would be quite a claim if he was to beat him plus he's a pretty big name in French boxing. Jarrell Miller would actually be fairly intriguing. Wilder is a bigger name but higher risk. You could them have someone like Dubois who has a padded record but we don't actually know if he's any good, smaller name than Chisora though.

It'll be AJ or Wilder.

I think Zhang makes the most business sense.

jwfg wrote: ↑07 Nov 2023, 10:38

Frostieballs wrote: ↑07 Nov 2023, 07:35

jwfg wrote: ↑06 Nov 2023, 07:23

It'll be AJ or Wilder.

I think Zhang makes the most business sense.

AJ or Wilder is a much bigger fight right now. Zhang isn't Zou Shiming, he's not a massive name in China. Outside of it, boxing people know him and people who watch TNT, but that's it. Business to one side, why fight a southpaw with six weeks training?

Frostieballs wrote: ↑07 Nov 2023, 12:31

jwfg wrote: ↑07 Nov 2023, 10:38

Frostieballs wrote: ↑07 Nov 2023, 07:35

I think Zhang makes the most business sense.

AJ or Wilder is a much bigger fight right now. Zhang isn't Zou Shiming, he's not a massive name in China. Outside of it, boxing people know him and people who watch TNT, but that's it. Business to one side, why fight a southpaw with six weeks training?

I am basing it on the premise that Joshua, Wilder, Fury and Usyk are paired off.

jwfg wrote: ↑07 Nov 2023, 12:43

Frostieballs wrote: ↑07 Nov 2023, 12:31

jwfg wrote: ↑07 Nov 2023, 10:38

AJ or Wilder is a much bigger fight right now. Zhang isn't Zou Shiming, he's not a massive name in China. Outside of it, boxing people know him and people who watch TNT, but that's it. Business to one side, why fight a southpaw with six weeks training?

I am basing it on the premise that Joshua, Wilder, Fury and Usyk are paired off.

If you were Shelly Finkel, would you advise Deontay to fight Ngannou for a massive purse as a tune up for AJ?

Coco wrote: ↑07 Nov 2023, 15:32

jwfg wrote: ↑07 Nov 2023, 12:43

Frostieballs wrote: ↑07 Nov 2023, 12:31

I am basing it on the premise that Joshua, Wilder, Fury and Usyk are paired off.

If you were Shelly Finkel, would you advise Deontay to fight Ngannou for a massive purse as a tune up for AJ?

100%

si7dog7 wrote: ↑07 Nov 2023, 16:27 Who should Francis fight next?
Whoever makes the most cash.

Coz the others are just waiting and waiting and making excuses and waiting and…..

Enter Francis. Timing. Earn dough. Get out

Fury. Eat, drink, talk nonsense. Then wake up. “Oh sh1t. Frank, Dev, Frank ya dossers, Sausages what’s going on? Fire up the Passat ya dossers “

Usyk “ I’m not feel. Dollars going down drain”

Saudi bloke rubbing hand “ ah good the build up to fight will be 7 hours endorsing Ice tea and Emirates

jwfg wrote: ↑07 Nov 2023, 12:43

Frostieballs wrote: ↑07 Nov 2023, 12:31

jwfg wrote: ↑07 Nov 2023, 10:38

AJ or Wilder is a much bigger fight right now. Zhang isn't Zou Shiming, he's not a massive name in China. Outside of it, boxing people know him and people who watch TNT, but that's it. Business to one side, why fight a southpaw with six weeks training?

I am basing it on the premise that Joshua, Wilder, Fury and Usyk are paired off.

If you were Shelly Finkel, would you advise Deontay to fight Ngannou for a massive purse as a tune up for AJ?

Frostieballs wrote: ↑07 Nov 2023, 18:18

jwfg wrote: ↑07 Nov 2023, 12:43

Frostieballs wrote: ↑07 Nov 2023, 12:31

I am basing it on the premise that Joshua, Wilder, Fury and Usyk are paired off.

If you were Shelly Finkel, would you advise Deontay to fight Ngannou for a massive purse as a tune up for AJ?

As I said … I’m basing it on the wildly hopefully assumption AJ Wilder is basically done.

If anyone starts taking tune ups or delaying we all know loads of things could derail it.