Amateurs who vanquished future top pros

[marbles]

john duddy did he have a brother or relative called oliver duddy . i beat a welsh kid by a very slim maj decsion years ago and oliver duddy had outclassed him a year or so before something like a 60-54 pts unam . oliver duddy was class what ever happened to him moorser any info sure he would of beat loads of lads who went pro

[ramosboxingDOTcom]

Prince Naseem Hamed beaten by Michael Brittingham in 1990? Mel might know better than I, but Buddy Shaw told me that Brittingham put it on Prince as part of a JO dual between the 1990 champions. He said Hamed was crying. Any truth to that Mel?

Michael's coach (Moses) told me MB put it on Naz good...

Moses wasn't there at the fight. I was looking at the program of this night and Hamed didn't fight Michael, he fought Dan Acevedo. Michael fought a Steve Muray that night. I fought Spencer Oliver.

[levi billups]

Dean Pithie from Coventry, who went 25-5 as a pro, beat Naseem Hamed convincingly in the Amateurs

[Joe Boxer]

Roy Jones Jr - Igor Ruzhnikov, USSR (1986), Andy Liebing, DDR (1987), Gerald McClelland, USA (1988), Park Si-Hun, KOR (1988)

Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but
1) Park Si-Hun did NOT become a top pro
2) Jones (as I'm sure you know) didn't get the decison :(

[crusader]

Roy Jones Jr - Igor Ruzhnikov, USSR (1986), Andy Liebing, DDR (1987), Gerald McClelland, USA (1988), Park Si-Hun, KOR (1988)

Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but
1) Park Si-Hun did NOT become a top pro
2) Jones (as I'm sure you know) didn't get the decison :(

Roy Jones was a top pro and the others 'vanquished' him in the amateurs.

[Joe Boxer]

Roy Jones Jr - Igor Ruzhnikov, USSR (1986), Andy Liebing, DDR (1987), Gerald McClelland, USA (1988), Park Si-Hun, KOR (1988)

Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but
1) Park Si-Hun did NOT become a top pro
2) Jones (as I'm sure you know) didn't get the decison :(

Roy Jones was a top pro and the others 'vanquished' him in the amateurs.

Ah, I did read it wrong. Thanks

[thenalo]

jesus ernesto gonzales beat andre ward @ the '98 blue & gold. i believe that was the last time ward has lost

[Travis h.]

I know I am way late in this discussion, but I beat Nonito Donaire, and Anthony Dirrell. Then my younger brother Drew Hartman beat Anthony Peterson.

Travis Hartman beat Nonito Donaire in 1995 silver gloves, first round (my only claim to fame,lol) . Hartman won title that year over Frankie Caruso and repeated in 1996.

Travis Hartman beat Anthony Dirrell in the 1998? or 1997, National PAL.

Drew Hartman beat Anthony Dirrell in the 1996 National Silver GLoves finals.

[Nile4000]

Alfonzo Ratliff beat Mitch Green in the 1980 Chicago-New York intercity Golden Gloves competition.
Marvin Stinson beat Greg Page sometime in 1976/1977.

[Nile4000]

James Tillis beat Renaldo Snipes around 76-78.

[boxfanire]

Oliver Duddy to my knowledge was supposed to box Naseem Hamed in a young Ireland v young England match. hamed pulled out and he boxed Michael Brodie instead. he knocked Michael Brodie out in 2 rounds. my understanding of it was hamed wanted no part of duddy at the time cos brendan ingle was on to his connections in Ireland asking about duddy. oliver duddy also boxed Janos nagy at the euoropean juniors. apparently was giving a boxing lesson to, well up on points only to suffer a cut eye. Janos nagy went on to fight for the super feather weight world title.

[Nile4000]

MIke Ayala beat a young Thomas Hearns, around 1975, I think.

[Vladimir5555]

Who actually beat Tony Tucker as an amateur?

Nikolay Erofeyev (USSR) in 1979

[Vladimir5555]

Ray Leonard - Anatoly Kamnev (USSR) in 1974.

Charlie Magri - Alexander Tkachenko (USSR) KO 2

Tony Tubbs - Igor Vysotsky (USSR,RSC 2) 1976) , Teofilo Stevenson (Cuba ,des,1978)

Greg Page - Evgeny Gorstkov(USSR) dec,3.12.1976

James Shuler - Alexander Koshkyn.(USSR) RSC 1 ,31.01.1981

Azumah Nelson - Serik Konakbaev (USSR) 1979,AB 3

Francesco Damiani - Piotr Zayev (USSR),OG 1980,dec

Ken Buchanan - Stas Stepashkin (USSR) Semifinal EC 1965,dec

Leon Spinks - Oleg Karatayev (USSR) Semifinal WCh 1974,TKO 3

Marvin Johnson - Vyacheslav Lemeshev ( USSR) , Semifinal OG 1972, TKO 2

[palooka]

Prince Naseem Hamed beaten by Michael Brittingham in 1990? Mel might know better than I, but Buddy Shaw told me that Brittingham put it on Prince as part of a JO dual between the 1990 champions. He said Hamed was crying. Any truth to that Mel?

Michael's coach (Moses) told me MB put it on Naz good...

Moses wasn't there at the fight. I was looking at the program of this night and Hamed didn't fight Michael, he fought Dan Acevedo. Michael fought a Steve Muray that night. I fought Spencer Oliver.

And Hamed beat Acevedo; it was a junior USA team boxing in London, Hamed was the only home boxer to win. Shaun Gray did well, dropped his man hard but lost on points. Steve Murray became a very good pro as did Spencer Oliver who is an excellent commentator on SKY sports.

(Is Brittingham still in jail?)

I wanted to say to John Scully really enjoyed reading your posts and this thread is excellent.

[palooka]

Oliver Duddy to my knowledge was supposed to box Naseem Hamed in a young Ireland v young England match. hamed pulled out and he boxed Michael Brodie instead. he knocked Michael Brodie out in 2 rounds. my understanding of it was hamed wanted no part of duddy at the time cos brendan ingle was on to his connections in Ireland asking about duddy. oliver duddy also boxed Janos nagy at the euoropean juniors. apparently was giving a boxing lesson to, well up on points only to suffer a cut eye. Janos nagy went on to fight for the super feather weight world title.

Hamed boxed Brodie on a club show, I think in Ancoates; Hamed knocked Brodie out in around 20 seconds of the first round, pretty much the first punch he threw. Hamed was the best around at his weight and for his age, a lot is made of the Pithie bout but the Ingle gym had a few decisions go against them back then - the amateurs and pros trained together and it wasn't the done thing for the authorities. There is no way that Brenden Ingle would have been frightened of putting Hamed in with anyone - Paul Griffin was a very good Irish amateur and he came to the Ingle gym - as good as Paul was (more accomplished than Oliver Duddy) Hamed was the boss.

[Harry boxing]

Alan Vaughan class

[Harry boxing]

Dean Pithie from Coventry, who went 25-5 as a pro, beat Naseem Hamed convincingly in the Amateurs

I was at tha contest and what a great performance from Dean pithie back then, just stayed on naz and beat him well

[Petu v.d. Pajm]

Some remarkable results from a yearly-held Tammer Tournament in Finland :

Veli-Matti Välimäki (FIN) 3-2 over Johnny Tapia, 1984
Marko Salminen (FIN) 4-1 over Otis Grant, 1985
Nurlan Kopsharov (URS) PTS over Artur Grigorian, 1989 (they beat Billy Schwer & George Scott in semi-finals)
Wilko Saeger (GDR) PTS over Robert McCracken, 1989
Jean-Francois Bergeron (CAN) KO2 over Attila Levin, 1995
Roger Petterson (SWE) 7-6 over Christian Sanavia & 9-7 over Christian Bladt, 1996
Rune Lillebuen (NOR) 12-4 over Vincenzo Rossitto, 1996
György Farkas (HUN) 8-5 over Jose Armando Santa Cruz, 1998

Multiple future big names in 1997 & 1999 tournaments as they were also Euro/Olympic qualification tournaments...

Those & 2000s in latter posting

[meahdem]

Oliver Duddy to my knowledge was supposed to box Naseem Hamed in a young Ireland v young England match. hamed pulled out and he boxed Michael Brodie instead. he knocked Michael Brodie out in 2 rounds. my understanding of it was hamed wanted no part of duddy at the time cos brendan ingle was on to his connections in Ireland asking about duddy. oliver duddy also boxed Janos nagy at the euoropean juniors. apparently was giving a boxing lesson to, well up on points only to suffer a cut eye. Janos nagy went on to fight for the super feather weight world title.

Hamed boxed Brodie on a club show, I think in Ancoates; Hamed knocked Brodie out in around 20 seconds of the first round, pretty much the first punch he threw. Hamed was the best around at his weight and for his age, a lot is made of the Pithie bout but the Ingle gym had a few decisions go against them back then - the amateurs and pros trained together and it wasn't the done thing for the authorities. There is no way that Brenden Ingle would have been frightened of putting Hamed in with anyone - Paul Griffin was a very good Irish amateur and he came to the Ingle gym - as good as Paul was (more accomplished than Oliver Duddy) Hamed was the boss.

hamed beat brodie in cheetamhill, it was at the irish club, first round stoppage not a twenty second knockout. my mate sweety beat hamed on points, and jim watt stopped john h stracy in a round.

[Beckndale]

I believe my husband's cousin fought Prince naseem as an amateur and beat him twice. Apparently knock out in the third round. We think at Doncaster dome. His name is Shaun poxton. Does anyone know about this?

[Nile4000]

Johnny Carter beat Jeff Chandler in 1975/1976.

[Bob]

Leo Sweeney beat Charley Burley 5 times...

[Controversial]

I believe my husband's cousin fought Prince naseem as an amateur and beat him twice. Apparently knock out in the third round. We think at Doncaster dome. His name is Shaun poxton. Does anyone know about this?

Happy to be proved wrong but I doubt it. Googling Shaun Poxton doesn't return anything boxing related (as far as I can see). Hamed only lost 5 times as an amateur so I imagine if someone beat him twice, once by knock out, there would be an article about it somewhere. Also I'm pretty sure Hamed was never knocked out.

Dean Pithie, and possibly Michael Brittingham, beat Hamed in the amateurs, I'm not sure of the others.

[NYboxing]

according to some other site, these were Hamed's "five" loses:


1986 European Cup U15 Light-Flyweight Finalist (Glasgow)
- Ramazi Paliani (PTS3)


1988 National U15 Light-Flyweight Championships, Third Place
- Peter Culshaw (KOT-3)

1989 European Cup U17 Light-Flyweight Finalist (Manchester)
- Ramazi Paliani (PTS3)

1990 European Cup U19 Flyweight Finalist (Costa Del Sos)
- Salim Medjkoune

1991 England-vs-Ireland Flyweight (Juniors)
- Damaen Kelly