Andre Ward's next step ?

ValMar · Post by **ValMar** » 11 Sep 2017, 11:45

What do you think ? Why ?
Without racism, please !

Tanzio · Post by **Tanzio** » 11 Sep 2017, 12:16

I could see him retiring and making a living commentating if he can't get Bellew to meet him at cruiser. I don't see Stevenson happening and pretty much everything else is too high risk / small reward at lhw or above.

There are nothing but good fights out there. I just don't see SOGgy taking them. Maybe SOGgy v Krushedner III about this time next year, if the Russian comes back strong with a couple of good wins.

SOGgy is probably the most enigmatic boxer of the last ten years.

forestbox · Post by **forestbox** » 11 Sep 2017, 12:18

Like him to fight Stevenson for all the belts carnt see Stevenson taking the fight tho

3132DW · Post by **3132DW** » 11 Sep 2017, 13:17

forestbox wrote:Like him to fight Stevenson for all the belts carnt see Stevenson taking the fight tho

Stevenson hardly ever seems to get any big fights made ?

Ward would love Bellew at Cruiser but it's the money both would want and would it really do big PPV numbers for neutrals ?

Ezzard · Post by **Ezzard** » 11 Sep 2017, 13:24

I'd prefer he stayed at LHW and take on all comers... I'm sure he'll pick a CW who will not be too taxing for him but who owns a belt of some description.

Kalan · Post by **Kalan** » 11 Sep 2017, 13:40

I see Ward possibly fighting Chickenson. At some point Chicken is going to look to retire. He has to fight a risky fight at some point and take another loss. He already has a KO loss so he doesn't have an O to risk. Ward is going to look to box around Beterbiev, who should have 20 to 30 fights by now by has been kicked downstairs by Haymon. The Chickenson fight is one way Ward can get a high profile easy win.

Kovalev has been screwed around royally by the North American Boxing Establishment -- including his coach.. He's going to have a hard time going forward getting significant fights. A 3rd Ward fight is out of the question now that they robbed the title from him. Joe Walcott got a 3rd fight with Ezzard Charles who won their first 2 fights -- basically because Walcott was the best contender at the time and it was a good matchup.. Kovalev may be matched with Beterbiev, Bivol, or Gvozdyk. He won't get fights with Marcus Browne, Badou Jack, or Chickenson.. This is the business of Boxing which is not a sport. Commissions, promoters, orgs, advisors, VADA, referees and judges are all looking to do business as well. That's why the con job called May-Mac did as well as it did.

SaadOffTheDeck · Post by **SaadOffTheDeck** » 11 Sep 2017, 14:15

I'd expect a long layoff.

KiwiRider · Post by **KiwiRider** » 11 Sep 2017, 16:03

3132DW wrote:
forestbox wrote:Like him to fight Stevenson for all the belts carnt see Stevenson taking the fight tho
Stevenson hardly ever seems to get any big fights made ?

Ward would love Bellew at Cruiser but it's the money both would want and would it really do big PPV numbers for neutrals ?

I'd like that fight too, and the money would be huge- but - Moany Bellend sees his future in HW and at the pie shop. I don't think he can get back down to cruiser. I also think there is a title triangle concocted by Eddie involving Parker Haye and Bellew.

boxing_rocks · Post by **boxing_rocks** » 11 Sep 2017, 16:05

I would love to see Ward against Bellew who is a guy who will low blow/elbow/rabbit punch you back.

Ossyrules · Post by **Ossyrules** » 11 Sep 2017, 16:06

Ward is a quality quality operator, but not one I'll miss when he's gone. He's the kind of boxer that takes more than he gives the sport imo

I expect him to stay at 175 with sparse activity

KiwiRider · Post by **KiwiRider** » 11 Sep 2017, 16:16

boxing_rocks wrote:I would love to see Ward against Bellew who is a guy who will low blow/elbow/rabbit punch you back.

my thoughts exactly. Imagine Wards face when Bellew dishes it back x2. And Tony can always put a test tube of goo on ice if he wants more kids.

ClivePatrickLyons · Post by **ClivePatrickLyons** » 12 Sep 2017, 00:26

Beats anyone from cruiserweight/light heavyweight/Super Middleweight

THE P4P KING

ValMar · Post by **ValMar** » 12 Sep 2017, 12:33

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:Beats anyone from cruiserweight/light heavyweight/Super Middleweight THE P4P KING

Do not exaggerate, please !

Bard of Boxrec · Post by **Bard of Boxrec** » 12 Sep 2017, 15:33

retirement, watch the crowd go mild.

ClivePatrickLyons · Post by **ClivePatrickLyons** » 14 Sep 2017, 02:52

ValMar wrote:
ClivePatrickLyons wrote:Beats anyone from cruiserweight/light heavyweight/Super Middleweight THE P4P KING
Do not exaggerate, please !

Someone got a different opinion doesn't mean they are talking sh.t unbeaten since a 12 year old

his in his early 30's show me another in the game today who can say that the guy has reached the mountain top more then once

Ossyrules · Post by **Ossyrules** » 14 Sep 2017, 05:53

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:Beats anyone from cruiserweight/light heavyweight/Super Middleweight THE P4P KING

I'd say based on kovalev 1, the cruisers at the top have a fair shot vs him.

175 he's the best though. And 168 if he can still make it

man · Post by **man** » 14 Sep 2017, 06:00

inactivity.

boxing_rocks · Post by **boxing_rocks** » 14 Sep 2017, 09:32

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:
ValMar wrote:
ClivePatrickLyons wrote:Beats anyone from cruiserweight/light heavyweight/Super Middleweight THE P4P KING
Do not exaggerate, please !

Someone got a different opinion doesn't mean they are talking sh.t unbeaten since a 12 year old his in his early 30's show me another in the game today who can say that the guy has reached the mountain top more then once

He was beaten in the Olympic semi-final and in the Kovalev 1 fight.

Cent0089 · Post by **Cent0089** » 14 Sep 2017, 09:47

Retire and enjoy money. His dirty tricks and boring boxing style is bad for sport of boxing, which is in trouble even without Wards fights.

Tanzio · Post by **Tanzio** » 14 Sep 2017, 09:47

boxing_rocks wrote:
ClivePatrickLyons wrote:
ValMar wrote:
Do not exaggerate, please !

Someone got a different opinion doesn't mean they are talking sh.t unbeaten since a 12 year old his in his early 30's show me another in the game today who can say that the guy has reached the mountain top more then once
He was beaten in the Olympic semi-final and in the Kovalev 1 fight.

https://www.google.com/search?q=cry+me+ ... 2BeWpKAAAA

Tarkus · Post by **Tarkus** » 14 Sep 2017, 10:04

Staying at LH without unification is the best option. Chikenson wont fight Ward ever but even without him there are plenty of exciting fighters in the division for Ward. He has no business fighting heavies. CWs are all tied up.

Kalan · Post by **Kalan** » 14 Sep 2017, 10:18

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:Someone got a different opinion doesn't mean they are talking sh.t unbeaten since a 12 year old his in his early 30's show me another in the game today who can say that the guy has reached the mountain top more then once

If you're not stone blind and watched Ward's last 2 fights...you know the officials helped him.. He lost the first fight and the rematch was a BS stoppage.

Kovalev's coach was even working against him behind the scenes...trying to move over to Ward's camp and then lying his ass off about it.. These dastardly deeds won't be sorted out in this life...but let Ward fight the top Light Heavyweights in Eastern Europe and his ass gets beaten.

boxing_rocks · Post by **boxing_rocks** » 14 Sep 2017, 10:35

Tanzio wrote:
boxing_rocks wrote:
ClivePatrickLyons wrote:

Someone got a different opinion doesn't mean they are talking sh.t unbeaten since a 12 year old his in his early 30's show me another in the game today who can say that the guy has reached the mountain top more then once
He was beaten in the Olympic semi-final and in the Kovalev 1 fight.
Usual Tanzio's Kovalev hate

I was just stating the obvious.

Tanzio · Post by **Tanzio** » 14 Sep 2017, 11:06

boxing_rocks wrote:
Tanzio wrote:
boxing_rocks wrote:
He was beaten in the Olympic semi-final and in the Kovalev 1 fight.
Usual Tanzio's Kovalev hate
I was just stating the obvious.

You haven't stopped crying for going on a year, box_of_rocks. I suggest group Kovacolyte therapy.

ValMar · Post by **ValMar** » 14 Sep 2017, 12:40

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:
ValMar wrote:
ClivePatrickLyons wrote:Beats anyone from cruiserweight/light heavyweight/Super Middleweight THE P4P KING
Do not exaggerate, please !

Someone got a different opinion doesn't mean they are talking sh.t unbeaten since a 12 year old his in his early 30's show me another in the game today who can say that the guy has reached the mountain top more then once

My honest opinion, without any prejudices ------AW is a great champion, likely #1 SMW, since 2000 (I suppose RJJ's and Calzaghe's fans would not agree, but it might be a dead race among them). He defeated Kovalev twice, and I think he is the better one, but on the neutral venue, with neutral ref and judges, he would have lost the first match, and the second one would have been very questionable. Simply, AW has been using so many dirty tricks, so, there is no way for me, to be fond of him. His skillset is an excellent, and I feel that he would easily defeat any recent LHW. The only exception is Beterbiev, he is too strong, with the supreme inside game, so I think AW will avoid him, if he stays at LHW.
It would be quite different story at CW. I think Usyk would toy with him, Briedis and Gassiev, too.....
I can not imagine him at HW, Joshua would destroy him, Ortiz and Wilder, too, I mean he would be literally destroyed, he is too tiny for CW and HW...