PARKER VS FURY NON TITLE BOUT.

[BIGDOUG58]

The BBBC have appointed Terry O'Connor as Referee and also appointed British Judges, which have angered the Parker camp and the WBO.
It is understood the WBO have sent the BBBC numerous requests to abide by its rules where all officials should be from neutral countries,
When Fury was to fight Parker in New Zealand earlier this year the Officials were from Neutral Countries, so its only reasonable the same applies here in the UK,
The WBO could withdraw Title recognition from this bout by Fight time, and its something I believe may happen to bolster the WBO's stance in World Boxing,
So if Fury wins then Parker will still be Champion...

[KiwiRider]

Oh for goodness sake

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How can this be true? I can think of a million fights with the WBO on the line where there wasn't totally neutral judges/referee.

Pacquaio-Vargas had all American judges and American referee.

Billy Joe Saunders had a British ref and an English judge.

Sounds like excuses to me.

[BIGDOUG58]

http://www.news.com.au/sport/boxing/par ... deded#null

Check out the Official report

[Covfefe]

Ward Kovalev. All American officials.

Both times.

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SECTION 23. OFFICIALS
(a) The WBO International Officials Committee shall keep a list of officials — Judges and Referees — qualified to act in WBO World Championship contests for the purpose of the appointments to be made by the President. The President shall appoint in an impartial manner and according to availability, the officials for the World Championship contests, which shall be three (3) JUDGES who shall keep the score and ONE non-scoring Referee. However, where it may be necessary for a Referee to keep score, the President may appoint TWO (2) JUDGES and ONE (1) REFEREE to consign the score.

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SECTION 24. REFEREES
(a) The Referee shall be the chief official in all Championship contests and shall be in charge of the control of the fight.

(b) Before the Championship contest begins, the Referee shall identify the Chief Second for each one of the Contestants. The Chief Seconds shall be responsible for the conduct of his or her Contestant’s corner.

(c) It is the customary act of sportsmanship that the Contestants shake hands before the fight immediately after the Referee’s Instructions and when the fight is over.

(d) The Referee shall examine the bandages and gloves of each Contestant before the fight begins to make sure that the gloves are free of any extraneous substance that could be harmful to the opponent, and that the bandages of each contestant are in conformity with the WBO World Championship Regulations.

(e) The Referee may stop the fight and consult with the ringside physician on whether, in the physician’s opinion, a contestant is physically able to continue.

(f) The Referee may impose discipline and enforce the WBO Rules and the Uniform Rules regarding the conduct and behavior of the Contestants and Seconds.

[BIGDOUG58]

When Parker had his last 2 Title fights in new Zealand the four Officials in each bout were from Foreign Counties not one was a New Zealander,
Maybe its something the the WBO have in place when their's is the only title at stake as the Ward vs Kovalev bouts had other organisations at stake as well as the WBO's. ??

[Ossyrules]

http://www.news.com.au/sport/boxing/par ... deded#null

Check out the Official report

That's not an official report it's just an article a journalist has put together

[Ossyrules]

Title of the thread is misleading. This isn't a non title bout (yet).

If team Parker are unhappy with British judges then they should appoint neutral if they can get them though

[jamesmcdonnell]

The BBBC have appointed Terry O'Connor as Referee and also appointed British Judges, which have angered the Parker camp and the WBO.
It is understood the WBO have sent the BBBC numerous requests to abide by its rules where all officials should be from neutral countries,
When Fury was to fight Parker in New Zealand earlier this year the Officials were from Neutral Countries, so its only reasonable the same applies here in the UK,
The WBO could withdraw Title recognition from this bout by Fight time, and its something I believe may happen to bolster the WBO's stance in World Boxing,
So if Fury wins then Parker will still be Champion...

If fury won the title would be declared vacant under those circumstances

[BIGDOUG58]

SO IT SEEMS THE BBBC HAVE APPOINTED THE OFFICIALS IN DIRECT CONFLICT TO THE WBO RULES.

THE WBO PRESIDENT IS TO APPOINT THE OFFICIALS NOT THE BBBC,

A DIRECT VIOLATION OF THE CONTRACTS IN PLACE FOR THIS BOUT.

PARKER MAY BE ON THE 7:25 am UNITED AIRLINES FLIGHT TO NEW YORK IN THE MORNING

[Ossyrules]

SO IT SEEMS THE BBBC HAVE APPOINTED THE OFFICIALS IN DIRECT CONFLICT TO THE WBO RULES.

THE WBO PRESIDENT IS TO APPOINT THE OFFICIALS NOT THE BBBC,

A DIRECT VIOLATION OF THE CONTRACTS IN PLACE FOR THIS BOUT.

PARKER MAY BE ON THE 7:25 am UNITED AIRLINES FLIGHT TO NEW YORK IN THE MORNING

Are they guidelines or rules then? You've said they are both in this thread (or possibly other thread). Guidelines and rules are 2 different things...

Enjoy NYC Joseph

[RScarf1]

The WBO has not withdrawn its sanctioning of the bout yet. The WBO will lose their fee if they do withdraw. If the BBBoC keeps this stance, I think the WBO will try not to schedule world title fights in United Kingdom anymore.

[Badhusker]

Ward Kovalev. All American officials.

Both times.

That would be shocking if they one of them had fought even over half of their fights in another country. About 95% of Kovalev's fights have been in the US.

[Covfefe]

Ward Kovalev. All American officials.

Both times.

That would be shocking if they one of them had fought even over half of their fights in another country. About 95% of Kovalev's fights have been in the US.

I'm not really sure what point you think you're making?

If their guidelines call for neutral country judges/officials (which I doubt they do) then having all Americans for WBO title fights in the states is nonsense.

[Ossyrules]

Ward Kovalev. All American officials.

Both times.

That would be shocking if they one of them had fought even over half of their fights in another country. About 95% of Kovalev's fights have been in the US.

I'm not really sure what point you think you're making?

If their guidelines call for neutral country judges/officials (which I doubt they do) then having all Americans for WBO title fights in the states is nonsense.

There is no real argument vs neutral judges. Badhusker is just a massive homer

[Ossyrules]

The WBO has not withdrawn its sanctioning of the bout yet. The WBO will lose their fee if they do withdraw. If the BBBoC keeps this stance, I think the WBO will try not to schedule world title fights in United Kingdom anymore.

Not sure about this. WBO has a strong history with U.K., especially warren. Doubtful this happens

[Covfefe]

The WBO has not withdrawn its sanctioning of the bout yet. The WBO will lose their fee if they do withdraw. If the BBBoC keeps this stance, I think the WBO will try not to schedule world title fights in United Kingdom anymore.

Not sure about this. WBO has a strong history with U.K., especially warren. Doubtful this happens

I don't think they could do that anyway. If a Brit goes abroad beats a champion for the WBO they can't stop him fighting at home? I wouldn't think so anyway.

[lefty]

Hypocritical from Arum- look at the ref and judges for when Crawford fought Dierry Jean -

http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/447121

[RScarf1]

If the WBO continues to sanction this fight, then they allow the BBBoC to have control or they don't sanction it and make no money. I don't think the BBBoC is going to change their stance on this fight with Fury.

[Kalan]

How can this be true? I can think of a million fights with the WBO on the line where there wasn't totally neutral judges/referee.

Pacquaio-Vargas had all American judges and American referee.

Billy Joe Saunders had a British ref and an English judge.

Sounds like excuses to me.

There're excuses and there's reality. The reality is, this game is corrupt through and through.

Pacquiao is extremely popular in America and is essentially treated like an American -- but you still had the first Erik Morales fight and the first Tim Bradley fight. When Pac fought in Australia recently they came up with the wrong winner again. I had him losing all his Marquez fights -- though 3 were "close."

They're NOT going to take a fight from you if you score a KO or if you beat the crap out of the favorite son -- but if the fight can be interpreted by anyone as “close” you’re going to catch the shiity end of the stick. Ruiz and Takan really beat Parker in “close” fights. If this fight is “close” it’s going to Fury.

It may not be be close. Fury has had a lot of physical and health problems and he lacks experience... I wouldn't put him into a fight like this right now. He does have some size, reach, talent, and ability. That's why I would wait. Waiting an extra 2 years for big money fights can extend your career by 5 years.

[Kalan]

The BBBC have appointed Terry O'Connor as Referee and also appointed British Judges, which have angered the Parker camp and the WBO.
It is understood the WBO have sent the BBBC numerous requests to abide by its rules where all officials should be from neutral countries,
When Fury was to fight Parker in New Zealand earlier this year the Officials were from Neutral Countries, so its only reasonable the same applies here in the UK,
The WBO could withdraw Title recognition from this bout by Fight time, and its something I believe may happen to bolster the WBO's stance in World Boxing,
So if Fury wins then Parker will still be Champion...

It's bad... Neutral officials should be appointed... This is like the Kovalev-Ward, Pac-Horn, and GGG-Canelo fights... Corrupt through and through.

However, Parker should be more motivated to score a KO.

[Badhusker]

Fury is NOT a top heavy, and if Parker struggles with him, he deserves to lose. Pathetic match up for a title fight.

If anyone is complaining about the officials, well, it is pretty sad.

[Badhusker]

That would be shocking if they one of them had fought even over half of their fights in another country. About 95% of Kovalev's fights have been in the US.

I'm not really sure what point you think you're making?

If their guidelines call for neutral country judges/officials (which I doubt they do) then having all Americans for WBO title fights in the states is nonsense.

There is no real argument vs neutral judges. Badhusker is just a massive homer

No, just a realist that doesn't rely on pissing and moaning before a fight of a robbery. This is a mismatch that shouldn't matter. Parker is B level and Fury is C at best.