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Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 14:07 70,000 Brits who don't really know much about boxing.. the remaining 10,000 are likely actually boxing fans.. hardcore.

Hearn is just milking the general public..

bigjack wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 14:24 I wouldn't go to a stadium fight no matter who was fighting,been to 3 in the past and the view from the cheap seats is terrible,usually the under card is poor too.Wilder is far more exciting than Joshua but can't fill a phone box so it must be down to the fast Eddie hype machine.

lillywhite14 wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 14:35

bigjack wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 14:24 I wouldn't go to a stadium fight no matter who was fighting,been to 3 in the past and the view from the cheap seats is terrible,usually the under card is poor too.Wilder is far more exciting than Joshua but can't fill a phone box so it must be down to the fast Eddie hype machine.

Can’t see how Wilder is far more exciting than Joshua. Are you basing that on the Wilder-Ortiz fight vs Joshua-Parker?

Vast majority of Wilder’s fights have been tedious! Joshua v Klitschko was ten times more exciting than anything Wilder has taken part in.

bigjack wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 14:39

lillywhite14 wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 14:35

bigjack wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 14:24 I wouldn't go to a stadium fight no matter who was fighting,been to 3 in the past and the view from the cheap seats is terrible,usually the under card is poor too.Wilder is far more exciting than Joshua but can't fill a phone box so it must be down to the fast Eddie hype machine.

Can’t see how Wilder is far more exciting than Joshua. Are you basing that on the Wilder-Ortiz fight vs Joshua-Parker?

Vast majority of Wilder’s fights have been tedious! Joshua v Klitschko was ten times more exciting than anything Wilder has taken part in.

I'm basing it on their last 2 fights,Wilder's were exciting,Joshua's were dull

lillywhite14 wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 14:42

bigjack wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 14:39

lillywhite14 wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 14:35

Can’t see how Wilder is far more exciting than Joshua. Are you basing that on the Wilder-Ortiz fight vs Joshua-Parker?

Vast majority of Wilder’s fights have been tedious! Joshua v Klitschko was ten times more exciting than anything Wilder has taken part in.

I'm basing it on their last 2 fights,Wilder's were exciting,Joshua's were dull

Touch short on which to judge to be fair! Joshua faced two tougher and better fighters.

Most of Wilders fights consist of him doing nothing for 3/4 rounds then landing a big, wild shot. Ortiz wasn’t exactly the thrilla in manilla! It had a couple of periods where it caught light but it wasn’t a patch on Joshua-Klitschko for example.

Joshua’s problem is, Wlad aside, he’s more or less been far too good for his opponents. Wilder has struggled with some very average fighters.

lillywhite14 wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 14:42

bigjack wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 14:39

lillywhite14 wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 14:35

Can’t see how Wilder is far more exciting than Joshua. Are you basing that on the Wilder-Ortiz fight vs Joshua-Parker?

Vast majority of Wilder’s fights have been tedious! Joshua v Klitschko was ten times more exciting than anything Wilder has taken part in.

I'm basing it on their last 2 fights,Wilder's were exciting,Joshua's were dull

Touch short on which to judge to be fair! Joshua faced two tougher and better fighters.

Most of Wilders fights consist of him doing nothing for 3/4 rounds then landing a big, wild shot. Ortiz wasn’t exactly the thrilla in manilla! It had a couple of periods where it caught light but it wasn’t a patch on Joshua-Klitschko for example.

Joshua’s problem is, Wlad aside, he’s more or less been far too good for his opponents. Wilder has struggled with some very average fighters.

MrGuy wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 14:52

lillywhite14 wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 14:42

bigjack wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 14:39

I'm basing it on their last 2 fights,Wilder's were exciting,Joshua's were dull

Touch short on which to judge to be fair! Joshua faced two tougher and better fighters.

Most of Wilders fights consist of him doing nothing for 3/4 rounds then landing a big, wild shot. Ortiz wasn’t exactly the thrilla in manilla! It had a couple of periods where it caught light but it wasn’t a patch on Joshua-Klitschko for example.

Joshua’s problem is, Wlad aside, he’s more or less been far too good for his opponents. Wilder has struggled with some very average fighters.

He's basically fought bums just like Wilder has.

nobleart1978 wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 14:05 How on earth does Eddie Hearn keep pursuading 80,000 mugs to part with large amounts of cash to watch these rubbish fight nights ?

Joshua is " the son of Bruno" who would not have got past European/commonwealth level 30 odd years ago. Parker looked like he could make Cruiserweight with a proper training regime. All that talk of Maori warrior piffle!

What sort of people go all the way to Cardiff and sing "Oh Anthony Joshua" all through the fight. These people must have serious problems.

Can you imagine what both versions of Geoge Foreman would have done to both of these pretenders !

nobleart1978 wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 14:05 How on earth does Eddie Hearn keep pursuading 80,000 mugs to part with large amounts of cash to watch these rubbish fight nights ?

Joshua is " the son of Bruno" who would not have got past European/commonwealth level 30 odd years ago. Parker looked like he could make Cruiserweight with a proper training regime. All that talk of Maori warrior piffle!

What sort of people go all the way to Cardiff and sing "Oh Anthony Joshua" all through the fight. These people must have serious problems.

Can you imagine what both versions of Geoge Foreman would have done to both of these pretenders !

rd350lc wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 15:45

MrGuy wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 14:52

lillywhite14 wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 14:42

Touch short on which to judge to be fair! Joshua faced two tougher and better fighters.

Most of Wilders fights consist of him doing nothing for 3/4 rounds then landing a big, wild shot. Ortiz wasn’t exactly the thrilla in manilla! It had a couple of periods where it caught light but it wasn’t a patch on Joshua-Klitschko for example.

Joshua’s problem is, Wlad aside, he’s more or less been far too good for his opponents. Wilder has struggled with some very average fighters.

He's basically fought bums just like Wilder has.

Klitschko, Parker and Whyte are definitely not bums

MrGuy wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 19:11

rd350lc wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 15:45

MrGuy wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 14:52
He's basically fought bums just like Wilder has.

Klitschko, Parker and Whyte are definitely not bums

Didn't say all, just most. Wlad was done. Are Parker and Where that much better than Ortiz?

Gnome wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 19:12

MrGuy wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 19:11

rd350lc wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 15:45

Klitschko, Parker and Whyte are definitely not bums

Didn't say all, just most. Wlad was done. Are Parker and Where that much better than Ortiz?

If done means he would have beaten any other boxer in the world other than Joshua, yes he was done.

MrGuy wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 19:17

Gnome wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 19:12

MrGuy wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 19:11
Didn't say all, just most. Wlad was done. Are Parker and Where that much better than Ortiz?

If done means he would have beaten any other boxer in the world other than Joshua, yes he was done.

He beat a guy who would get kod by any good pro, if he couldn't hang all over them.

Gnome wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 19:24

MrGuy wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 19:17

Gnome wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 19:12

If done means he would have beaten any other boxer in the world other than Joshua, yes he was done.

He beat a guy who would get kod by any good pro, if he couldn't hang all over them.

Who would have beaten prime Wlad?

nobleart1978 wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 14:05 How on earth does Eddie Hearn keep pursuading 80,000 mugs to part with large amounts of cash to watch these rubbish fight nights ?

Joshua is " the son of Bruno" who would not have got past European/commonwealth level 30 odd years ago. Parker looked like he could make Cruiserweight with a proper training regime. All that talk of Maori warrior piffle!

What sort of people go all the way to Cardiff and sing "Oh Anthony Joshua" all through the fight. These people must have serious problems.

Can you imagine what both versions of Geoge Foreman would have done to both of these pretenders !

MrGuy wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 19:29

Gnome wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 19:24

MrGuy wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 19:17
He beat a guy who would get kod by any good pro, if he couldn't hang all over them.

Who would have beaten prime Wlad?

The list is to long. His alleged prime was with Steward. He was getting laid out 8 years into his career. If being that far into his career isn't his prime.......Yes Steward allegedly took him to a new level. His alleged prime had him jabbing and clutching his opponents all night. Take away his clinchfests and that guy spends more time on his back than a cheap hooker.

tobyh5 wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 19:35

nobleart1978 wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 14:05 How on earth does Eddie Hearn keep pursuading 80,000 mugs to part with large amounts of cash to watch these rubbish fight nights ?

Joshua is " the son of Bruno" who would not have got past European/commonwealth level 30 odd years ago. Parker looked like he could make Cruiserweight with a proper training regime. All that talk of Maori warrior piffle!

What sort of people go all the way to Cardiff and sing "Oh Anthony Joshua" all through the fight. These people must have serious problems.

Can you imagine what both versions of Geoge Foreman would have done to both of these pretenders !

80,000 mugs?

I went to the Takem fight with my daughter who loved it. Cracking night with a great atmosphere. I also went to other fights like Bruno v Bugner in 1987, Benn v Eubank, Benn v McClellan, Bruno v McCall, Lewis v McCall and 22 other "world" title fights, small hall fights and also boxed as an amateur for a few years myself, so not some casual fan. Probably been to more shows than you.

I am also a huge critic of Matchroom and even unsubbed from sky sports for three years as not a fan of a lot of the mismatches BUT the reality is he gets fans out as he actually can promote and puts on a great night which you want to go to and you leave happy enough.

And to say Parker, a 6ft 4" guy with not much fat could shed over two stone to make cruiserweight is a fcking stupid statement.

Gnome wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 20:01

MrGuy wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 19:29

Gnome wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 19:24
Who would have beaten prime Wlad?

The list is to long. His alleged prime was with Steward. He was getting laid out 8 years into his career. If being that far into his career isn't his prime.......Yes Steward allegedly took him to a new level. His alleged prime had him jabbing and clutching his opponents all night. Take away his clinchfests and that guy spends more time on his back than a cheap hooker.

Indulge me, name some names. Proviso: his prime was when he learnt to keep his hands up.

MrGuy wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 20:18

Gnome wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 20:01

MrGuy wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 19:29
The list is to long. His alleged prime was with Steward. He was getting laid out 8 years into his career. If being that far into his career isn't his prime.......Yes Steward allegedly took him to a new level. His alleged prime had him jabbing and clutching his opponents all night. Take away his clinchfests and that guy spends more time on his back than a cheap hooker.

Indulge me, name some names. Proviso: his prime was when he learnt to keep his hands up.

Is hands up code for excessive clinching? His hands up had little to do with his success. In real non-clinchfests......Ali, Foreman, Holmes, Lyle, Tyson, Holyfield, Lewis, McCall, Mercer, and his own brother. That's the short one.