Groves' future in doubt?

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Groves' future in doubt?

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This is the first I've heard about it... have I missed something?

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/ ... ves-boxing
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I don't see why Groves would be retiring. His injury isn't that severe to my knowledge.
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gilgamesh wrote: 09 Apr 2018, 13:07 I don't see why Groves would be retiring. His injury isn't that severe to my knowledge.
That's why I was really surprised when I was reading it, but presumably he's got some insider knowledge given his contacts.
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Take anything Kevin Mitchell says with a pinch of salt. He scored Groves-Eubank to Eubank.
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ElJefe wrote: 09 Apr 2018, 13:28Take anything Kevin Mitchell says with a pinch of salt. He scored Groves-Eubank to Eubank.
:lol:
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ElJefe wrote: 09 Apr 2018, 13:28 Take anything Kevin Mitchell says with a pinch of salt. He scored Groves-Eubank to Eubank.
Oh I know, I was one of those roasting him for it, but nonetheless, he's clearly alluding to knowing something that we don't...
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ElJefe wrote: 09 Apr 2018, 13:28 Take anything Kevin Mitchell says with a pinch of salt. He scored Groves-Eubank to Eubank.
That was right up there with his Floyd v Manny scorecard
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Groves-DeGale 1 wasn't 'terrific' either. It was ok. Same as every other fight when they know each other inside out.
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Deserter wrote: 09 Apr 2018, 13:35
ElJefe wrote: 09 Apr 2018, 13:28 Take anything Kevin Mitchell says with a pinch of salt. He scored Groves-Eubank to Eubank.
Oh I know, I was one of those roasting him for it, but nonetheless, he's clearly alluding to knowing something that we don't...
Or he just plucked a false narrative out of thin air in order to create a better story.
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Mitchell’s ability to write a good story about fighters has always been in complete contrast to his utter inability to score a fight.

Given that I accept the latter, treating his fight reports as fanciful, I enjoyed the De Gale piece
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Mitchell’s ability to write a good story about fighters has always been in complete contrast to his utter inability to score a fight.

Given that I accept the latter, treating his fight reports as fanciful, I enjoyed the De Gale piece
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ive never liked his work in any respect
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But it was all very low-key. Even the seasoned and reliable Showtime ring announcer, John Lennon Jr, described DeGale as “once again the IBF super-bantamweight champion of the world”. The last time DeGale made 8st 10lb he more than likely was arguing with Groves over sparring slots at the Dale Youth Club.
Imagine

:o :o :o
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I wouldn't even go as far to say DeGale vs Groves was ok....it was a dull sparring session.
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SAPFO wrote: 09 Apr 2018, 15:16
But it was all very low-key. Even the seasoned and reliable Showtime ring announcer, John Lennon Jr, described DeGale as “once again the IBF super-bantamweight champion of the world”. The last time DeGale made 8st 10lb he more than likely was arguing with Groves over sparring slots at the Dale Youth Club.
Imagine

:o :o :o
:lol:

Mitchell looks worse the longer this thread goes on! Was it also him who scored Pacquiao-Mayweather to Pacquiao?

I think the only bit of genuinely new information he seems to have is that the shoulder is responding slowly to treatment. Which doesn't bode too well for the Super Series final. Everything else is supposition.
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For arguments sake.
If Groves was to retire, does that mean that Zeuge would be upgraded to full WBA champion and likely placed into the WBSS final against Smith?
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keirw wrote: 10 Apr 2018, 10:45 For arguments sake.
If Groves was to retire, does that mean that Zeuge would be upgraded to full WBA champion and likely placed into the WBSS final against Smith?
God that just sounds fuckin dreadful!
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Stuarty wrote: 10 Apr 2018, 10:48
keirw wrote: 10 Apr 2018, 10:45 For arguments sake.
If Groves was to retire, does that mean that Zeuge would be upgraded to full WBA champion and likely placed into the WBSS final against Smith?
God that just sounds fuckin dreadful!
I'm sure Gallagher would disagree ;-)
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Off topic but Mitchell's tennis book Break Point was a great read.
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keirw wrote: 10 Apr 2018, 12:34
Stuarty wrote: 10 Apr 2018, 10:48
keirw wrote: 10 Apr 2018, 10:45 For arguments sake.
If Groves was to retire, does that mean that Zeuge would be upgraded to full WBA champion and likely placed into the WBSS final against Smith?
God that just sounds fuckin dreadful!
I'm sure Gallagher would disagree ;-)
Yeah they'd be over the moon with that. Really hope Groves is ok. Was looking forward to the final.
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It was a very serious injury he had...all dislocations are career threatening if you ask me.
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stujones wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 03:33 It was a very serious injury he had...all dislocations are career threatening if you ask me.
Dead right ,,, I know from experience , i damaged my shoulder years ago , It was never the same till this day its not right , I was'nt boxing at the time , but after it was supposedly fixed , there would definetly never ever be a chance of it coming good enough to step between the ropes , not at a serious level anyway , But i do know others who had a similar injury and they were fine , after rehab and rest
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Colin McMillan and Dean Francis were never the same again. I remember Francis boxing Matthew Barney years after and not throwing a single right hand for 12 rounds.

On the other hand Danny Williams and Jean Pascal continued there careers without any obvious issue.

Until he gets the all clear and starts using it again it’s surely just pure speculation.
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Kit wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 14:40 Colin McMillan and Dean Francis were never the same again. I remember Francis boxing Matthew Barney years after and not throwing a single right hand for 12 rounds.

On the other hand Danny Williams and Jean Pascal continued there careers without any obvious issue.

Until he gets the all clear and starts using it again it’s surely just pure speculation.
I watched that Williams v Potter fight last night funnily enough. Never gets old :bag:
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If I decided to be cynical.

I could see Groves stating his injury is worse than expected, Sauerland throwing Braehmer-Smith WBSS final.

Then a unification late summer Groves-DeGale.
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