Is Khan the best fighter Crawford has ever faced ?

ValMar · Post by **ValMar** » 26 Mar 2019, 12:33

Khan claims that he is the best fighter Crawford has ever faced. Do you agree with Khan ?
To be honest, I have no answer.

skanksta · Post by **skanksta** » 26 Mar 2019, 12:37

I clicked undecided because I think - at his peak - he maybe was.

but now ?
No chance - Postol, Indongo (before the fight anyway!) Horn and Benavidez all better than a washed-up Khan easily.

Onetimeonly · Post by **Onetimeonly** » 26 Mar 2019, 12:47

I'd say so. Khan or gamboa.

SenorPipino · Post by **SenorPipino** » 26 Mar 2019, 12:54

Easily.

If Khan had a chin, Crawford would be in for a frustrating night. Even if Khan may be a bit past his best years.

Gamboa was definitely on the slide physically. And never showed himself to be anything close to resembling special at lightweight.

ValMar · Post by **ValMar** » 26 Mar 2019, 13:13

I have a dilemma - Khan or Gamboa (but Gamboa at 126 or maximum 130) ?

Onetimeonly · Post by **Onetimeonly** » 26 Mar 2019, 13:16

SenorPipino wrote: ↑26 Mar 2019, 12:54 Easily.

If Khan had a chin, Crawford would be in for a frustrating night. Even if Khan may be a bit past his best years.

Gamboa was definitely on the slide physically. And never showed himself to be anything close to resembling special at lightweight.

That definitely started gamboas slide. He looked better than anyone has against bud early.

ValMar · Post by **ValMar** » 26 Mar 2019, 13:18

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑26 Mar 2019, 13:16
SenorPipino wrote: ↑26 Mar 2019, 12:54 Easily.

If Khan had a chin, Crawford would be in for a frustrating night. Even if Khan may be a bit past his best years.

Gamboa was definitely on the slide physically. And never showed himself to be anything close to resembling special at lightweight.
That definitely started gamboas slide. He looked better than anyone has against bud early.

Gamboa is/was too small for LW.

Onetimeonly · Post by **Onetimeonly** » 26 Mar 2019, 13:34

ValMar wrote: ↑26 Mar 2019, 13:18
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑26 Mar 2019, 13:16
SenorPipino wrote: ↑26 Mar 2019, 12:54 Easily.

If Khan had a chin, Crawford would be in for a frustrating night. Even if Khan may be a bit past his best years.

Gamboa was definitely on the slide physically. And never showed himself to be anything close to resembling special at lightweight.
That definitely started gamboas slide. He looked better than anyone has against bud early.
Gamboa is/was too small for LW.

ValMar · Post by **ValMar** » 26 Mar 2019, 14:06

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑26 Mar 2019, 13:34
ValMar wrote: ↑26 Mar 2019, 13:18
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑26 Mar 2019, 13:16
SenorPipino wrote: ↑26 Mar 2019, 12:54 Easily.

If Khan had a chin, Crawford would be in for a frustrating night. Even if Khan may be a bit past his best years.

Gamboa was definitely on the slide physically. And never showed himself to be anything close to resembling special at lightweight.
That definitely started gamboas slide. He looked better than anyone has against bud early.
Gamboa is/was too small for LW.

??

Ruthless-RKO · Post by **Ruthless-RKO** » 26 Mar 2019, 14:07

On paper yes..

Khan May be past his best but he’s not shot. Even now I’d still consider him One of TC’s best opponents. Along with maybe 1 or 2 others.

Onetimeonly · Post by **Onetimeonly** » 26 Mar 2019, 14:08

ValMar wrote: ↑26 Mar 2019, 14:06
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑26 Mar 2019, 13:34
ValMar wrote: ↑26 Mar 2019, 13:18
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑26 Mar 2019, 13:16
SenorPipino wrote: ↑26 Mar 2019, 12:54 Easily.

If Khan had a chin, Crawford would be in for a frustrating night. Even if Khan may be a bit past his best years.

Gamboa was definitely on the slide physically. And never showed himself to be anything close to resembling special at lightweight.
That definitely started gamboas slide. He looked better than anyone has against bud early.
Gamboa is/was too small for LW.

??

He's about the same size as Roberto Duran and that wasn't the question to begin with you asked for his best opponent, gamboa has definitely done the best against him, then you come back with that. It was funny.

gilgamesh · Post by **gilgamesh** » 26 Mar 2019, 14:10

Yeah it's either Khan or Gamboa. I think those two are probably on about the same skill level. Khan being the bigger man of the two might be slightly more challenging, but then again Crawford is also an even better, more experienced fighter than he was against Gamboa so it might be easier for him than Gamboa was, but yeah Khan ranks up there as one of his better opponents to date.

NateJR · Post by **NateJR** » 26 Mar 2019, 14:38

I'm going with yes, skill wise.. Offensively anyways. I would be surprised if Khan doesn't win a couple of the early rounds based on him being a fast starter and his potential hand speed advantage. I assume someone as talented and Crawford will eventually figure Khan out and get him out of there though. It will be a fun fight to watch.

gilgamesh · Post by **gilgamesh** » 26 Mar 2019, 14:40

NateJR wrote: ↑26 Mar 2019, 14:38 I'm going with yes, skill wise.. Offensively anyways. I would be surprised if Khan doesn't win a couple of the early rounds based on him being a fast starter and his potential hand speed advantage. I assume someone as talented and Crawford will eventually figure Khan out and get him out of there though. It will be a fun fight to watch.

Yeah Khan usually does well in the early going. Even in his toughest losses. Against Danny Garcia and Canelo he at least did well for the opening few rounds.

Thomastearns · Post by **Thomastearns** » 26 Mar 2019, 14:48

Probably still the best and certainly the most entertaining. Khan can't help but be exciting. I'd hate to be a big Amir Khan fan as the toll on the nerves every fight would be too much.

Crawford has it to because anything else than a convincing win will make all the praise heaped upon him seem somewhat misplaced.

Crawford v Spence would tell us everything we need to know and then there wouldn't be any question of who is best opponent was. Another one that simply must be made for the good of this sport.

tiny_acres · Post by **tiny_acres** » 26 Mar 2019, 16:32

A peak in shape focussed Khan is a thing of beauty. Fantastic skills, blazing speed.
But when was the last time we saw Khan in shape, focussed and peak?

Best Coast · Post by **Best Coast** » 27 Mar 2019, 00:29

ValMar wrote: ↑26 Mar 2019, 12:33 Khan claims that he is the best fighter Crawford has ever faced. Do you agree with Khan ?
To be honest, I have no answer.

Why didnt you offer other names of Crawford foes: Postol, Gamboa, etc?

I say Postol is better than Khan. His beatdown of Matthysse is a better win than any of Khan's wins. I would say Amir's best win was his close decision over Maidana.

Postol was 28-0 when he fought Bud & has never been KOd. Besides Crawford, Postol's only loss was to Josh Taylor, who would also beat Khan IMO.

Best Coast · Post by **Best Coast** » 27 Mar 2019, 00:33

tiny_acres wrote: ↑26 Mar 2019, 16:32 A peak in shape focussed Khan is a thing of beauty. Fantastic skills, blazing speed.
But when was the last time we saw Khan in shape, focussed and peak?

Even when Khan IS in shape his chin is a major liability. 3 of his 4 losses are by KO.

Lackeos · Post by **Lackeos** » 27 Mar 2019, 02:34

Mexi-Box wrote: ↑28 Apr 2018, 19:31
Lackeos wrote: ↑28 Apr 2018, 19:03
Mexi-Box wrote: ↑22 Feb 2018, 11:16 Yes, Diaz is the best opponent Crawford has faced.

He sure is. Tell me again that it's Indongo, Ricky Burns, or Gamboa, and I'll destroy you once more. You're a total BoxRec warrior, Jokeos.

Apparently no one in this thread is considering Felix Diaz to be Crawford's best opponent. Seems to be that Gamboa is the only name anyone is floating.

Cent0089 · Post by **Cent0089** » 27 Mar 2019, 03:09

How much favorite Crawford is? At least 8 to 1 ?

Lennox · Post by **Lennox** » 27 Mar 2019, 03:44

No.

Even at Khans peak it is still no.

Khan was only 3rd best in his weight class at his peak.

Lennox · Post by **Lennox** » 27 Mar 2019, 03:49

Lackeos wrote: ↑27 Mar 2019, 02:34
Mexi-Box wrote: ↑28 Apr 2018, 19:31
Lackeos wrote: ↑28 Apr 2018, 19:03
Mexi-Box wrote: ↑22 Feb 2018, 11:16 Yes, Diaz is the best opponent Crawford has faced.

He sure is. Tell me again that it's Indongo, Ricky Burns, or Gamboa, and I'll destroy you once more. You're a total BoxRec warrior, Jokeos.
Apparently no one in this thread is considering Felix Diaz to be Crawford's best opponent. Seems to be that Gamboa is the only name anyone is floating.

Certainly not Felix Diaz by statistics. www.premierboxingorganisation.com/welterweight-147 Diaz was only ranked 7th at the time he fought Crawford.

Enlightened-One · Post by **Enlightened-One** » 27 Mar 2019, 07:30

Amir Khan is an Olympic silver medallist, competed in ten world title fights (spanning four weight classes), and defeated several former world champions, such as: Marco Antonio Barrera; Andriy Kotelnik; Paul Malignaggi; Marcos Maidana; Zab Judah; Julio Diaz; Luis Collazo; Devon Alexander; and Chris Algieri.

His fight against Terence Crawford will be the thirteenth world champion that he’s faced throughout the entirety of his career. This will be the second member of the mythical top-ten pound-for-pound elite that he’s shared the ring with. This will also be his eleventh world title fight.

Terence Crawford hasn’t faced anybody possessing that sort of resume!

SenorPipino · Post by **SenorPipino** » 27 Mar 2019, 07:58

Cent0089 wrote: ↑27 Mar 2019, 03:09 How much favorite Crawford is? At least 8 to 1 ?

The books I use have Crawford a 10-1 and a 13-1 favorite.

Solid, but not completely off the charts.

Lomachenko is 100-1 over Crolla by comparison. Fury 50-1 over Schwarz. Gvozdyk 100-1 over Ngumbu.

gilgamesh · Post by **gilgamesh** » 27 Mar 2019, 11:35

Lennox wrote: ↑27 Mar 2019, 03:44 No.

Even at Khans peak it is still no.

Khan was only 3rd best in his weight class at his peak.

Who's Crawford fought that's better though?