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Do you consider Andrade a better 160lbs fighter than Jermall Charlo?
Posted: 01 Jul 2019, 11:17
by apollo creed
What do you think?
Re: Do you consider Andrade a better 160lbs fighter than Jermall Charlo?
Posted: 01 Jul 2019, 11:28
by boxing_rocks
No. It is easy to show boxing circus against limited opponents. Even Charlo may be too much for Andrade.
Re: Do you consider Andrade a better 160lbs fighter than Jermall Charlo?
Posted: 01 Jul 2019, 11:29
by Onetimeonly
No, charlo is tighter.
Re: Do you consider Andrade a better 160lbs fighter than Jermall Charlo?
Posted: 01 Jul 2019, 11:30
by dagilechia
Andrade vs Charlo would be 120-108 for DA
Re: Do you consider Andrade a better 160lbs fighter than Jermall Charlo?
Posted: 01 Jul 2019, 11:35
by Onetimeonly
dagilechia wrote: ↑01 Jul 2019, 11:30
Andrade vs Charlo would be 120-108 for DA
Not in a million years.
Re: Do you consider Andrade a better 160lbs fighter than Jermall Charlo?
Posted: 01 Jul 2019, 11:48
by Enlightened-One
Demetrius Andrade has a deeply unimpressive resume.
Re: Do you consider Andrade a better 160lbs fighter than Jermall Charlo?
Posted: 01 Jul 2019, 11:59
by dagilechia
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑01 Jul 2019, 11:48
Demetrius Andrade has a deeply unimpressive resume.
better than Charlo though
Re: Do you consider Andrade a better 160lbs fighter than Jermall Charlo?
Posted: 01 Jul 2019, 12:08
by Enlightened-One
dagilechia wrote: ↑01 Jul 2019, 11:59
better than Charlo though
Nope.

Re: Do you consider Andrade a better 160lbs fighter than Jermall Charlo?
Posted: 01 Jul 2019, 12:10
by Onetimeonly
dagilechia wrote: ↑01 Jul 2019, 11:59
better than Charlo though
No he doesn't. I know sulecki is your boy but he's not in Williams or trout's league. Korobov is better too.
Re: Do you consider Andrade a better 160lbs fighter than Jermall Charlo?
Posted: 01 Jul 2019, 12:24
by dagilechia
what makes Charlo's resume better? it's worse + he lost to Korobov

Re: Do you consider Andrade a better 160lbs fighter than Jermall Charlo?
Posted: 01 Jul 2019, 12:28
by jamamb
hard to say, theyve both been fighting lacklustre opponents. andrade seems more fluid and better defensively to me, but charlo more powerful and more willing to step on the gas
Re: Do you consider Andrade a better 160lbs fighter than Jermall Charlo?
Posted: 01 Jul 2019, 12:45
by apollo creed
boxing_rocks wrote: ↑01 Jul 2019, 11:28
No. It is easy to show
boxing circus against limited opponents. Even Charlo may be too much for Andrade.
Well Charlo fought Centeno Jr, Heiland, Korobov and Adams.
Andrade fought Kautondokwa, Akavov and Sulecki.
I'd say that both have lacklustre resumes and performance @160lbs but objectively speaking Andrade beat a better ranked mw than Charlo's.
Re: Do you consider Andrade a better 160lbs fighter than Jermall Charlo?
Posted: 01 Jul 2019, 12:46
by jamamb
williams is probably the best opponent either fought, charlo bombed him out. could be that charlo needs better opponents to really shine. he certanly hasnt been impressive his last two but to me he looked uninterested
Re: Do you consider Andrade a better 160lbs fighter than Jermall Charlo?
Posted: 01 Jul 2019, 12:48
by Nondescript
jamamb wrote: ↑01 Jul 2019, 12:46
williams is probably the best opponent either fought, charlo bombed him out. could be that charlo needs better opponents to really shine. he certanly hasnt been impressive his last two but to me he looked uninterested
Andrade has never fought Williams has he?! Unless you're talking about the amateurs.
*Edit- I know what you mean now.
Re: Do you consider Andrade a better 160lbs fighter than Jermall Charlo?
Posted: 01 Jul 2019, 12:49
by apollo creed
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑01 Jul 2019, 11:48
Demetrius Andrade has a deeply unimpressive resume.
Like Charlo has some mw ATG worthy resume?! lol
Re: Do you consider Andrade a better 160lbs fighter than Jermall Charlo?
Posted: 01 Jul 2019, 12:51
by apollo creed
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑01 Jul 2019, 12:10
No he doesn't. I know sulecki is your boy but he's not in Williams or trout's league. Korobov is better too.
"a better 160lbs fighter", NOT a better 154-160lbs fighter.

Re: Do you consider Andrade a better 160lbs fighter than Jermall Charlo?
Posted: 01 Jul 2019, 12:51
by Nondescript
It's hard to tell I think. Andrade's style is boring af overall admittedly, but then so is Billy Joe Saunders or Erislandy Lara's but they're still very skilled fighters.
It would probably be a boring ass fight to be honest and Andrade would be guilty of playing a big part in that (even though I've defended him on here)
Re: Do you consider Andrade a better 160lbs fighter than Jermall Charlo?
Posted: 01 Jul 2019, 12:52
by apollo creed
jamamb wrote: ↑01 Jul 2019, 12:28
hard to say, theyve both been fighting lacklustre opponents. andrade seems more fluid and better defensively to me, but charlo more powerful and more willing to step on the gas
Yup. Charlo is more willing to trade and fire back.
Re: Do you consider Andrade a better 160lbs fighter than Jermall Charlo?
Posted: 01 Jul 2019, 12:57
by Nondescript
apollo creed wrote: ↑01 Jul 2019, 12:49
Like Charlo has some mw ATG worthy resume?! lol
Don't- he'll respond with "I never said those words!

"
He likes to play the ignorant role when it suits him.
Re: Do you consider Andrade a better 160lbs fighter than Jermall Charlo?
Posted: 01 Jul 2019, 13:00
by boxing_rocks
Nondescript wrote: ↑01 Jul 2019, 12:51
It's hard to tell I think. Andrade's style is boring af overall admittedly, but then so is Billy Joe Saunders or Erislandy Lara's but they're still very skilled fighters.
It would probably be a boring ass fight to be honest and Andrade would be guilty of playing a big part in that (even though I've defended him on here)
Saunders was landing good shots on Lemieux. Andrade throws wild punches which are missing. Didn't land anything of a note on Sulecki.
Re: Do you consider Andrade a better 160lbs fighter than Jermall Charlo?
Posted: 01 Jul 2019, 13:06
by Nondescript
boxing_rocks wrote: ↑01 Jul 2019, 13:00
Saunders was landing good shots on Lemieux. Andrade throws wild punches which are missing. Didn't land anything of a note on Sulecki.
I'm not gonna defend Andrade against Sulecki as it was a terrible fight to watch.
That said though, I think Sulecki is a better all around fighter than lemieux. He doesn't possess the lights out power that David does, but if you look at his Sulecki's fight with Jacobs, he actually pushed Jacobs more than he did Andrade, and Jacobs is a proven top level fighter.
Re: Do you consider Andrade a better 160lbs fighter than Jermall Charlo?
Posted: 01 Jul 2019, 13:11
by apollo creed
Nondescript wrote: ↑01 Jul 2019, 12:57
Don't- he'll respond with "I never said those words!

"
He likes to play the ignorant role when it suits him.
Lol, True.
Or even better said:
User Datsue described very well this type of attention seeker-troll like E.O :
" Intelligent or not, he's a complete disingenuous arsehole who cloaks his own opinions in a veneer of bullshit while pretending that he's in fact impartial.
Yet watch him when it's someone he doesn't have a gaping wide-on for in the dock...!
It's like listening to one of those right-wing media types who thinks that saying the word "fact" can simply make inconvenient things that they don't like go away, & that if they keep thrashing things out in a long-winded convoluted fashion you'll lose sight of consensus reality & accept their Byzantine version of events that—despite their constant appeals to some sort of "objectivity"—is only supported by their opinions & their bullshit rhetoric. "

Re: Do you consider Andrade a better 160lbs fighter than Jermall Charlo?
Posted: 01 Jul 2019, 13:11
by DrDuke
Andrade is better. He's more special.
Re: Do you consider Andrade a better 160lbs fighter than Jermall Charlo?
Posted: 01 Jul 2019, 13:13
by Nondescript
Haha.
Me and Datsue haven't always seen eye to eye over the years, but he's a smart guy and that's a pretty spot on assessment.
Re: Do you consider Andrade a better 160lbs fighter than Jermall Charlo?
Posted: 01 Jul 2019, 13:13
by dagilechia
he would make Charlo look hopeless