was the east euro craze just a short lived fad?

[margaret thatcher]

ggg (kaz, i know), loma both on way down if anything. kov almost done. govzdyk and lebedev retired, gassiev inactive. baranchyk brutally ktfo. usyk on the later part of his career and lost a lot of enthusiasm after his last fight. bert is already like 36 and fighting cans again. derevyanchankyo already like 36 and losing widely to mall


an east euro prospect serhi bohachuk just got flattened by the first good american gatekeeper he faced, a guy who didnt win a second vs an actually legit fighter, the american jermall charlo.


who do they have coming up now? was it just an east euro temporary fad?

[lazboy]

Man I don’t know if I would call it a fad. They had some really good and exciting fighters. Naturally that attracted Eastern Europe fans. I’m still a fan of loma, GGG, etc.

Just seems things have slowed down on the boxing front in general. I’m sure they still have some talents in their amateur ranks and new names will come about.

[gregregegg]

Its the Uzbek era coming....

[Cent0089]

Eastern euros are just fine, you win some, you lose some, just like everyone else, this is boxing

[Enlightened-One]

Uzbekistan, Russia, and Kazakhstan seem to be achieving a lot in the amateur ranks (if we’re considering the 2019 world championship medals table, where these three nations were on the podium 47% of the time).

And it’s reasonable to assume that from 15 of those medallists, many of those fighters will very likely progress to becoming exciting world-rated prospects, since most of them are currently in their early to mid-twenties.

Interestingly though, if you review the BoxRec pound-for-pound ratings list for the po ranks, there’s only two Eastern European fighters in their twenties, which is the polar opposite of the equivalent amateur rankings.

That said, I can think of quick a few Eastern European heavyweight prospects in the pro ranks that I feel are destined to become world-rated fighters.

So I feel that the sport of boxing is thriving in that geographical region.

[JxhDel.]

It is not a fad, there have been eastern euro champs/contenders since the fall of the USSR, there are a lot now and there will be for a long time. Also in MMA, the games have just started.

[Enlightened-One]

It is not a fad, there have been eastern euro champs/contenders since the fall of the USSR, there are a lot now and there will be for a long time. Also in MMA, the games have just started.

Agreed.

The ban of the pro-ranks was lifted from Eastern European countries from around 1992, which paved the way for the likes of Yuri Arbachakov, Andrey Shkalikov, Oleg Maskiev, Kostya Tszyu, Vitali Klitschko, Wladimir Klitschko, Andrew Golota, Nikolay Valuev, Louis Kaplan, Benny Bass, Vic Darchinyan, Orzubek Nazarov, Sergey Kobozev, Dimitri Kirillov, Denis Inkin, Akhmed Kotiev, Dmitry Pirog, Roman Karmazin, Artur Grigorian, Sultan Ibragimov, Vasily Jirov etc.

Anyone that feels that Eastern European fighters achieving success in the pro ranks is simply a recent “craze” or a “short-lived fad” has to be considered as being either uneducated and lacking knowledge or have only recently started following the sport of boxing.

We're talking about thirty years!

[Perkin Warbeck]

Some of the best Eurasian boxers are currently being avoided, such as Makhmudov, Hrgovic, Kossobutskiy, Davtaev, and Majidov in the heavyweight division. Others have been poorly managed/promoted.

Don't judge them all by mediocre, no-defense Bohachuck. For example, Madrimov is much better.

[squiggy]

I hope we at least get to see Beterbiev in one more big fight. That was such quality work against Gvozdyk.

[Goodz]

Unfortunately for you it's only just started :)

[margaret thatcher]

who do they got coming up nyao ?

[Goodz]

who do they have coming up now?

I'll bite

Eimantis Stanionis, Filip Hrgovic, Israil Madrimov, Pavel Silyagin, Albert Batyrgaziev, Evgeny Tischenko, Aleksei Egorov, Mahammedrasul Majidov, Magomed Kurbanov, Alexander Besputin, Bektemir Melikuziev, Radzhab Butaev, Sadriddin Akhmedov, Zhanibek Alimkhanuly, Hovhannes Bachkov, Arslanbek Makhmudov, Viktor Vykhryst, Khariton Agbra, Shakhobidin Zoirov, Arthur Biyarslanov, Ivan Dychko, Bakhram Murtazaliev, Ivan Golub, Fiodor Czerkaszyn,Artem Oganesyan, Shakhbas Makhmudov, Vladimir Shishkin, Vladyslav Sirenko, Vladimir Mironchikov,Shakhram Giyasov, Yauheni Dauhaliavets, Bekzad Nurdauletov, Zhan Kossobutskiy, Denys Berinchyk, Sergey Lubkovich, Ali Izmailov, etc

and in the amateurs:
Oleksandr Khyzhniak (p4p number 1), Dzmitry Asenau, Gleb Bakshi, Andrey Zamkovoy, Muslim Gadzhimagomedov, Vassily Levit, Yaroslav Khartsyz, Ilya popov, Ilya Shakirov, Dzhambulat Bizhamov, Sharaputdin Ataev, Mykola Butsenko, Mirazizbek Mirzakhalilov, Imam Khataev, Ievgenii Barabanov, Ruslan Kolesnikov, Gabil Mamedov, Sergey Sobylinsky, Alexey Zobnin, Ivan Sagaydak, etc

[brilo33]

yes it is , after betiev goes down to smith jr and dugh lungerund goes home the better cant think of no more good

[gilgamesh]

Certainly wouldn't call it a fad. More like a particularly bright spot for Eastern European Boxing that isn't likely to repeat itself on a regular basis, but good fighters always come about again, and good fighters of the past inspire more to follow in their footsteps.

[brilo33]

Certainly wouldn't call it a fad. More like a particularly bright spot for Eastern European Boxing that isn't likely to repeat itself on a regular basis, but good fighters always come about again, and good fighters of the past inspire more to follow in their footsteps.

well thats it in a nut shell people were saying the same thing about american boxers a few years back, when you get old enough you realise every thing is on repeat

[Goodz]

Certainly wouldn't call it a fad. More like a particularly bright spot for Eastern European Boxing that isn't likely to repeat itself on a regular basis, but good fighters always come about again, and good fighters of the past inspire more to follow in their footsteps.

It would repeat itself on a regular basis if the big western promoters signed up the best amateurs. The talent is there and has always been there. Go look at the boxrec amateur rankings, the ex soviet union countries dominate the top of the rankings in every division. Russia in particular have so much strength in depth

USA promoters went through a phase of signing quite a lot of them. But in the last few years they aren't signing as many maybe because they don't sell tickets or something like that. Trust me if Bob Arum suddenly decided to sign the best 20 Russian/Ukraine etc amateurs you would see another 'golden period'

The talent is on display in russian pro shows like 'Patriot Boxing promotions' and RCC promotions more lately now though.

[gilgamesh]

Certainly wouldn't call it a fad. More like a particularly bright spot for Eastern European Boxing that isn't likely to repeat itself on a regular basis, but good fighters always come about again, and good fighters of the past inspire more to follow in their footsteps.

It would repeat itself on a regular basis if the big western promoters signed up the best amateurs. The talent is there and has always been there. Go look at the boxrec amateur rankings, the ex soviet union countries dominate the top of the rankings in every division. Russia in particular have so much strength in depth.

Amateurs and Pros is 2 different things. Ask the Cubans.

[Goodz]

Certainly wouldn't call it a fad. More like a particularly bright spot for Eastern European Boxing that isn't likely to repeat itself on a regular basis, but good fighters always come about again, and good fighters of the past inspire more to follow in their footsteps.

It would repeat itself on a regular basis if the big western promoters signed up the best amateurs. The talent is there and has always been there. Go look at the boxrec amateur rankings, the ex soviet union countries dominate the top of the rankings in every division. Russia in particular have so much strength in depth.

Amateurs and Pros is 2 different things. Ask the Cubans.

Thats Cubans though. These fighters are different to cubans they usually adapt to the pros good. >>> W Klitschko, V Klitschko, Usyk, Lomachenko, Golovkin, Tszyu, Beterbiev, Pirog, etc

[gilgamesh]

It would repeat itself on a regular basis if the big western promoters signed up the best amateurs. The talent is there and has always been there. Go look at the boxrec amateur rankings, the ex soviet union countries dominate the top of the rankings in every division. Russia in particular have so much strength in depth.

Amateurs and Pros is 2 different things. Ask the Cubans.

Thats Cubans though. These fighters are different to cubans they usually adapt to the pros good. >>> W Klitschko, V Klitschko, Usyk, Lomachenko, Golovkin, Tszyu, Beterbiev, Pirog, etc

Some Amateurs adapt and some don't. I don't think it applies to nationality. Just depends on the individual.

[Goodz]

Its hardly a blip anyway right now

Usyk, Lomachenko, Beterbiev,Breidis, Golovkin , Bivol, << at least 3 or 4 of them are top 10 p4p

[Cyclops]

Some of the best Eurasian boxers are currently being avoided, such as Makhmudov, Hrgovic, Kossobutskiy, Davtaev, and Majidov in the heavyweight division. Others have been poorly managed/promoted.

Don't judge them all by mediocre, no-defense Bohachuck. For example, Madrimov is much better.

Hrgovic is from Croatia.... definitely not Eurasian

I was Just gonna post this too Croatia isn't in Eastern Europe.

Beautiful country though, should you ever fancy visiting.

[Cyclops]

Hrgovic is from Croatia.... definitely not Eurasian

I was Just gonna post this too Croatia isn't in Eastern Europe.

Beautiful country though, should you ever fancy visiting.

Yes so I'm told. The women are beautiful as well

[Goodz]

Croatia IS in eastern europe. And they are Slavics

Basically from Slovenia/Croatia/Czech Republic east towards to Asia is Eastern Europe.

[Cyclops]

Croatia IS in eastern europe. And they are Slavics

Basically from Slovenia/Croatia/Czech Republic east towards to Asia is Eastern Europe.

It's in central and South-Eastern Europe. When I went there I didn't think of it as Eastern Europe, But whatever... Do they consider themselves an Eastern European country?

[Winter king]

Croatia IS in eastern europe. And they are Slavics

Basically from Slovenia/Croatia/Czech Republic east towards to Asia is Eastern Europe.

It's in central and South-Eastern Europe. When I went there I didn't think of it as Eastern Europe, But whatever... Do they consider themselves an Eastern European country?

Yes. Im eastern european and generally everything east to germany italy and austria is considered eastern europe. At the least culturally. Basically post soviet countries. Also Kazakhstan is in the middle of asia so how is that eastern europe for you?