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Which Fight Gets More UK PPV Buys?

Posted: 15 Jul 2023, 09:05
by jwfg
AJ vs Whyte or Luke vs Francis?

Re: Which Fight Gets More UK PPV Buys?

Posted: 15 Jul 2023, 09:30
by Coco
Fury x5

Re: Which Fight Gets More UK PPV Buys?

Posted: 15 Jul 2023, 11:28
by Boxerbeetle
If AJ - Whyte was on Sky Box Office, it might have a chance. Not on DAZN PPV though.

Re: Which Fight Gets More UK PPV Buys?

Posted: 15 Jul 2023, 14:18
by leejonesjnr
You'd have to assume that Fury v the MMA man will do more through curiosity value and MMA fans who wouldn't usually buy.
I would suggest that actual boxing fans will more likely go for Joshua v Whyte if they can't afford both.

Re: Which Fight Gets More UK PPV Buys?

Posted: 15 Jul 2023, 15:13
by jameswilson
Undercard so far for AJ is Hrgovic v McKean and Fisher v Armstrong for the southern area title. Fabio Wardley also likely to be on there.

I say make it a night of the heavyweights with say 6 heavyweight fights.

Re: Which Fight Gets More UK PPV Buys?

Posted: 15 Jul 2023, 15:16
by garethhop
Fury easy.

Re: Which Fight Gets More UK PPV Buys?

Posted: 15 Jul 2023, 17:52
by gregregegg
Partialy depends on what the UFC do..... Dana could put a mega card on the same day just to fornicate with francis.

Re: Which Fight Gets More UK PPV Buys?

Posted: 15 Jul 2023, 18:04
by leejonesjnr
gregregegg wrote: 15 Jul 2023, 17:52 Partialy depends on what the UFC do..... Dana could put a mega card on the same day just to fornicate with francis.
I don’t follow UFC, do they care? Presumably if the guy was a draw they would have done more to keep him?

Re: Which Fight Gets More UK PPV Buys?

Posted: 15 Jul 2023, 18:21
by gregregegg
leejonesjnr wrote: 15 Jul 2023, 18:04
gregregegg wrote: 15 Jul 2023, 17:52 Partialy depends on what the UFC do..... Dana could put a mega card on the same day just to fornicate with francis.
I don’t follow UFC, do they care? Presumably if the guy was a draw they would have done more to keep him?
I think dana cares... if the heavyweight champ of the ufc leaves and goes and boxes for 30 million how many other UFC guys will start wondering if they can do it....

Re: Which Fight Gets More UK PPV Buys?

Posted: 15 Jul 2023, 18:24
by leejonesjnr
gregregegg wrote: 15 Jul 2023, 18:21
leejonesjnr wrote: 15 Jul 2023, 18:04
gregregegg wrote: 15 Jul 2023, 17:52 Partialy depends on what the UFC do..... Dana could put a mega card on the same day just to fornicate with francis.
I don’t follow UFC, do they care? Presumably if the guy was a draw they would have done more to keep him?
I think dana cares... if the heavyweight champ of the ufc leaves and goes and boxes for 30 million how many other UFC guys will start wondering if they can do it....
That’s not what’s happening though is it?

Re: Which Fight Gets More UK PPV Buys?

Posted: 15 Jul 2023, 18:29
by gregregegg
leejonesjnr wrote: 15 Jul 2023, 18:24
gregregegg wrote: 15 Jul 2023, 18:21
leejonesjnr wrote: 15 Jul 2023, 18:04

I don’t follow UFC, do they care? Presumably if the guy was a draw they would have done more to keep him?
I think dana cares... if the heavyweight champ of the ufc leaves and goes and boxes for 30 million how many other UFC guys will start wondering if they can do it....
That’s not what’s happening though is it?
yea. that seems to be whats happening.

Re: Which Fight Gets More UK PPV Buys?

Posted: 15 Jul 2023, 19:17
by HomicideHenry
Let's put it this way....

Fury-Ngannou is gonna be bigger than Joshua-Whyte, Joyce-Zhang, and Usyk-Dubois combined. You can take that to the bank. Two are rematches nobody wants to really see (let's be honest) and the other is a title match with a guy who never really earned that shot in the first place. The heavyweight division sucks right now. So the gimmick match will be the event of the year potentially.

Re: Which Fight Gets More UK PPV Buys?

Posted: 15 Jul 2023, 19:39
by leejonesjnr
gregregegg wrote: 15 Jul 2023, 18:29
leejonesjnr wrote: 15 Jul 2023, 18:24
gregregegg wrote: 15 Jul 2023, 18:21

I think dana cares... if the heavyweight champ of the ufc leaves and goes and boxes for 30 million how many other UFC guys will start wondering if they can do it....
That’s not what’s happening though is it?
yea. that seems to be whats happening.
Where have you read 30m?

Re: Which Fight Gets More UK PPV Buys?

Posted: 15 Jul 2023, 19:45
by Ruthless-RKO
UK?

Might just be AJ-Whyte.

UK prime time.

Fury-Ngannou is daft o clock.

Both will be heavily streamed illegally.

Re: Which Fight Gets More UK PPV Buys?

Posted: 15 Jul 2023, 19:47
by Boxerbeetle
AJ fight is only PPV in the U.K. and included in DAZN sub everywhere else, so can only really compare U.K. numbers.

Re: Which Fight Gets More UK PPV Buys?

Posted: 15 Jul 2023, 19:51
by Ruthless-RKO
Boxerbeetle wrote: 15 Jul 2023, 19:47 AJ fight is only PPV in the U.K. and included in DAZN sub everywhere else, so can only really compare U.K. numbers.
Wonder what time they’ll do Fury-Ngannou.

Either they do it primetime UK, which will be around 1am Saudi time then. If they cater to US fans, cus that market might just be more money. Then it would be daft o clock in UK.

Re: Which Fight Gets More UK PPV Buys?

Posted: 15 Jul 2023, 19:53
by gregregegg
leejonesjnr wrote: 15 Jul 2023, 19:39
gregregegg wrote: 15 Jul 2023, 18:29
leejonesjnr wrote: 15 Jul 2023, 18:24

That’s not what’s happening though is it?
yea. that seems to be whats happening.
Where have you read 30m?
oh i just made that part up. i dunno an arbitrarily large sum of money.

Re: Which Fight Gets More UK PPV Buys?

Posted: 15 Jul 2023, 19:57
by leejonesjnr
gregregegg wrote: 15 Jul 2023, 19:53
leejonesjnr wrote: 15 Jul 2023, 19:39
gregregegg wrote: 15 Jul 2023, 18:29

yea. that seems to be whats happening.
Where have you read 30m?
oh i just made that part up. i dunno an arbitrarily large sum of money.
Ah ok.
I THINK it’s $8m but that’s still plenty innit.

Re: Which Fight Gets More UK PPV Buys?

Posted: 15 Jul 2023, 20:06
by gregregegg
leejonesjnr wrote: 15 Jul 2023, 19:57
gregregegg wrote: 15 Jul 2023, 19:53
leejonesjnr wrote: 15 Jul 2023, 19:39

Where have you read 30m?
oh i just made that part up. i dunno an arbitrarily large sum of money.
Ah ok.
I THINK it’s $8m but that’s still plenty innit.
Think its more than that. jake paul (not a great source) claims it was 8 figures not 8 million.... so more than 10 million. now as i said not a great source.. but arriel backs it and he seems to know everything with these things.

Either way silly money.

Re: Which Fight Gets More UK PPV Buys?

Posted: 16 Jul 2023, 02:11
by mickey1975
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 15 Jul 2023, 19:45 UK?

Might just be AJ-Whyte.

UK prime time.

Fury-Ngannou is daft o clock.

Both will be heavily streamed illegally.
Streams for massive events are notoriously unreliable. If you really want to watch guaranteed, you buy.

Re: Which Fight Gets More UK PPV Buys?

Posted: 16 Jul 2023, 02:29
by maverick23
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 15 Jul 2023, 19:45 UK?

Might just be AJ-Whyte.

UK prime time.

Fury-Ngannou is daft o clock.

Both will be heavily streamed illegally.
What makes you think Fury/Ngannou is going to be at a daft time? I’d imagine it’ll be 9pm U.K. time similar to the AJ fights in Saudi and then in the afternoon US time.

Re: Which Fight Gets More UK PPV Buys?

Posted: 16 Jul 2023, 04:44
by tonyevs
gregregegg wrote: 15 Jul 2023, 18:21
leejonesjnr wrote: 15 Jul 2023, 18:04
gregregegg wrote: 15 Jul 2023, 17:52 Partialy depends on what the UFC do..... Dana could put a mega card on the same day just to fornicate with francis.
I don’t follow UFC, do they care? Presumably if the guy was a draw they would have done more to keep him?
I think dana cares... if the heavyweight champ of the ufc leaves and goes and boxes for 30 million how many other UFC guys will start wondering if they can do it....
Yes that's how it appears. Potentially an existential threat for Dana/UFC if other top names decide to leave and work for rival promotions.
Undercard so far for AJ is Hrgovic v McKean and Fisher v Armstrong for the southern area title. Fabio Wardley also likely to be on there.
That's a decent night's entertainment.
I think Hrgovic is the real top contender currently - he had a close fight against Zhang, but looked a lot stronger and able to force Zhang back than Joyce did.
Fisher is always entertaining .. so whilst AJ v Whyte PPV will struggle on DAZN, it should do similar to Fury v Ngannou

Re: Which Fight Gets More UK PPV Buys?

Posted: 16 Jul 2023, 04:50
by mickey1975
tonyevs wrote: 16 Jul 2023, 04:44
gregregegg wrote: 15 Jul 2023, 18:21
leejonesjnr wrote: 15 Jul 2023, 18:04

I don’t follow UFC, do they care? Presumably if the guy was a draw they would have done more to keep him?
I think dana cares... if the heavyweight champ of the ufc leaves and goes and boxes for 30 million how many other UFC guys will start wondering if they can do it....
Yes that's how it appears. Potentially an existential threat for Dana/UFC if other top names decide to leave and work for rival promotions.
Undercard so far for AJ is Hrgovic v McKean and Fisher v Armstrong for the southern area title. Fabio Wardley also likely to be on there.
That's a decent night's entertainment.
I think Hrgovic is the real top contender currently - he had a close fight against Zhang, but looked a lot stronger and able to force Zhang back than Joyce did.
Fisher is always entertaining .. so whilst AJ v Whyte PPV will struggle on DAZN, it should do similar to Fury v Ngannou
They are being very cagey with announcing the deal for subscribers. August is a shocking month for DAZN, it could end up £70 for Jake Paul, Yafai and AJ. Alienating subscribers won't help, but asking them for £27 is a bit much. The fight obviously is free worldwide, over on the current scene forum it has similar views to what Jarred Anderson v Charles Martin has on here.

Re: Which Fight Gets More UK PPV Buys?

Posted: 16 Jul 2023, 05:05
by tonyevs
I'm not sure if Eddie will be just happy to just fill the venue rather than getting a million PPVs .. I don't think he is that off his game with unrealistic expectations.

Re: Which Fight Gets More UK PPV Buys?

Posted: 16 Jul 2023, 05:08
by mickey1975
tonyevs wrote: 16 Jul 2023, 05:05 I'm not sure if Eddie will be just happy to just fill the venue rather than getting a million PPVs .. I don't think he is that off his game with unrealistic expectations.
I think this fight was insisted on by DAZN. Eddie more or less said so. They haven't had an AJ PPV yet and who knowsmwhat the tv situation will be for Wilder.