Oleksandr Usyk vs James Toney At Cruiserweight

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GordonChen
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Oleksandr Usyk vs James Toney At Cruiserweight

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Who Wins?
goose 5
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs James Toney At Cruiserweight

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Usyk on points. Way too fast.
Jeff_lacy_ko
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs James Toney At Cruiserweight

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Toney went life and death with jirov in his biggest cw win

Usyk is light years better than jirov
margaret thatcher
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs James Toney At Cruiserweight

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:yay:

Ambling Alp II wrote: 30 Sep 2021, 10:48
margaret thatcher wrote: 29 Sep 2021, 17:39 simple question then

whose cruiser career ranks higher, usyk's or toney?

straight up answer bruh
I rank Toney a little higher. Don't know how much clearer I can be.
EdwardRevolver1993
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs James Toney At Cruiserweight

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I think, Usyk might turn out to be a stylistic nightmare for Toney.

Jirov's workrate and volume gave Toney some problems (how big of a problem - depends on how you scored Toney-Jirov).

That said, Jirov fought a "balls to the walls" type of a fight. And was more straight-forward and opened up for counters, than Usyk would be.

Usyk, I think, is even taller and rangier southpaw than Jirov. Also, faster and more mobile. And he might offer an even bigger output, than Jirov. But he'll deliver it in a more complicated way, using moves, feints and etc.

I think, Toney's usual tactics won't work against Usyk. He'll have some nice moments, but they'll be few and far between.
Bobbyptsd
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs James Toney At Cruiserweight

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Boring one sided type win for Usyk. His style is all wrong for Toney and as others have pointed out he's way too fast. Toney needs someone to stand there a bit so he can counter, and Usyk is too smart to do that. Jirov fought Toney very competitively and you can't get much more "stand there and give the opponent counter opportunities" than Jirov.
GordonChen
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs James Toney At Cruiserweight

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Imagine if they fought at HW too bad the result isn’t much different Usyk on points
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vote here if you havent - one of the great debates in boxing !

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gilgamesh
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs James Toney At Cruiserweight

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GordonChen wrote: 02 Aug 2025, 01:20 Imagine if they fought at HW too bad the result isn’t much different Usyk on points
At Heavyweight I figure Usyk wins even wider.
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs James Toney At Cruiserweight

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Usyk by split decision in a close fight.
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