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Oleksandr Usyk vs James Toney At Cruiserweight
Posted: 30 Jul 2025, 20:02
by GordonChen
Who Wins?
Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs James Toney At Cruiserweight
Posted: 30 Jul 2025, 21:39
by goose 5
Usyk on points. Way too fast.
Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs James Toney At Cruiserweight
Posted: 30 Jul 2025, 22:48
by Jeff_lacy_ko
Toney went life and death with jirov in his biggest cw win
Usyk is light years better than jirov
Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs James Toney At Cruiserweight
Posted: 31 Jul 2025, 04:17
by margaret thatcher
Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑30 Sep 2021, 10:48
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑29 Sep 2021, 17:39
simple question then
whose cruiser career ranks higher, usyk's or toney?
straight up answer bruh
I rank Toney a little higher. Don't know how much clearer I can be.
Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs James Toney At Cruiserweight
Posted: 31 Jul 2025, 04:35
by EdwardRevolver1993
I think, Usyk might turn out to be a stylistic nightmare for Toney.
Jirov's workrate and volume gave Toney some problems (how big of a problem - depends on how you scored Toney-Jirov).
That said, Jirov fought a "balls to the walls" type of a fight. And was more straight-forward and opened up for counters, than Usyk would be.
Usyk, I think, is even taller and rangier southpaw than Jirov. Also, faster and more mobile. And he might offer an even bigger output, than Jirov. But he'll deliver it in a more complicated way, using moves, feints and etc.
I think, Toney's usual tactics won't work against Usyk. He'll have some nice moments, but they'll be few and far between.
Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs James Toney At Cruiserweight
Posted: 31 Jul 2025, 12:42
by Bobbyptsd
Boring one sided type win for Usyk. His style is all wrong for Toney and as others have pointed out he's way too fast. Toney needs someone to stand there a bit so he can counter, and Usyk is too smart to do that. Jirov fought Toney very competitively and you can't get much more "stand there and give the opponent counter opportunities" than Jirov.
Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs James Toney At Cruiserweight
Posted: 02 Aug 2025, 01:20
by GordonChen
Imagine if they fought at HW too bad the result isn’t much different Usyk on points
Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs James Toney At Cruiserweight
Posted: 02 Aug 2025, 01:21
by margaret thatcher
vote here if you havent - one of the great debates in boxing !
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs James Toney At Cruiserweight
Posted: 02 Aug 2025, 03:30
by gilgamesh
GordonChen wrote: ↑02 Aug 2025, 01:20
Imagine if they fought at HW too bad the result isn’t much different Usyk on points
At Heavyweight I figure Usyk wins even wider.
Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs James Toney At Cruiserweight
Posted: 03 Aug 2025, 07:53
by scorpio83
Usyk by split decision in a close fight.