ITV commentary sucks!!!

darkstar81 · Post by **darkstar81** » 02 Sep 2006, 17:55

Used to like John Rawling but he just irritates me now. Duke Mckenzie is ok but says some bizarre things.

p.s Calzaghe looks gutted!!! He wanted Johnson

Razor · Post by **Razor** » 02 Sep 2006, 18:07

Blah blah blah... This is what does my head in bout people on this board. All the complaining. At the end of the day im happy its on terestrial tv, they are goin out to a wider audience not just us boxing fanatics.

All the time on here its people complaining about things cause they arnt up to your perfect standards. Seriously take a step back and just enjoy the fights. Seriously stop complainin about things it weas a great fight... After every broadcast after ITV theres one of these posts.

If there wasnt no boxing on TV people would moan, and when it is they still moan. Does my head in

(this aint aimed at anyone in particular)

lvlarc · Post by **lvlarc** » 02 Sep 2006, 18:17

I wasn't really paying much attention to commentary, though I did laugh when the ITV team claimed the winner would be the best LightHeavy in the world.......Adamek, Erdei, Tarver, Dawson?

mattym · Post by **mattym** » 02 Sep 2006, 18:18

i think they were bloody good!! They know about boxing, and also they bring a good sense of climax and intensity into it. I dont understand this guy i find their commentary very exciting!!!!

hitman_hatton1 · Post by **hitman_hatton1** » 02 Sep 2006, 18:20

ha ha we always get one of these.

i thought rawling had a good one tonight.

duke came out with a few dodgy comments again but that's what he's there for.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 02 Sep 2006, 18:21

hitman_hatton1 wrote:ha ha we always get one of these.

i thought rawling had a good one tonight.

duke came out with a few dodgy comments again but that's what he's there for.

What about this its so close when Johnson was about 5 rounds up. Both were saying that.

darkstar81 · Post by **darkstar81** » 02 Sep 2006, 18:30

come on people, commenters need to bring excitement and intensity sure but also intelligence, analysis and insight and above all objectivity

its like listening to the bloke down the pub doing the commentary

people should have standards and expectations and not just accept things if they dont feel its good enough

WayoftheCass · Post by **WayoftheCass** » 02 Sep 2006, 18:32

stujones wrote:
hitman_hatton1 wrote:ha ha we always get one of these.

i thought rawling had a good one tonight.

duke came out with a few dodgy comments again but that's what he's there for.
What about this its so close when Johnson was about 5 rounds up. Both were saying that.

It was crap. McKenzie is getting worse every fight. As for the 'you should be happy to be just getting free boxing.....' rubbish. We paid through the nose and still do for Sky and monthly subscription fee just to get channels like Eurosport and ITV 4. ITV are making a fortune in advertisement and have a responsibility to provide quality analysis. They are not and should be criticised for it.

mattym · Post by **mattym** » 02 Sep 2006, 18:36

well to be honest they are on terrestrial tele, and i think they balance boxing knowledge with dumbed down talk for the average fan quite well. They picked up on the main points about how Clinton shouldnt let Glencoffe dictate the pace and put rounds in the bag, and pointed out when Glencoffe was tired but also mentioned points about how the arm punches were not effective from Johnson etc i did feel like screaming tactics at the tele and wondered why i never heard the commentators go "it seems to me that he just needs to..." because it was staring you right in the face but overall i did think they were very good and although lacking some technical points brought emotion to the fight.

WayoftheCass · Post by **WayoftheCass** » 02 Sep 2006, 18:39

just wish Barry would shut the f*ck up so that I can watch
'Rio Ferdinand's Windups.'

darkstar81 · Post by **darkstar81** » 02 Sep 2006, 18:41

lol yeah i want to watch that too cos i missed it

get another fight first cool

KO Artist · Post by **KO Artist** » 02 Sep 2006, 18:58

WayoftheCass wrote:
stujones wrote:
hitman_hatton1 wrote:ha ha we always get one of these.

i thought rawling had a good one tonight.

duke came out with a few dodgy comments again but that's what he's there for.
What about this its so close when Johnson was about 5 rounds up. Both were saying that.
It was crap. McKenzie is getting worse every fight. As for the 'you should be happy to be just getting free boxing.....' rubbish. We paid through the nose and still do for Sky and monthly subscription fee just to get channels like Eurosport and ITV 4. ITV are making a fortune in advertisement and have a responsibility to provide quality analysis. They are not and should be criticised for it.

Just be grateful boxing is on tv

In 10 years it wont be

The sport is full of old men

lvlarc · Post by **lvlarc** » 02 Sep 2006, 19:01

Well the show has finished, overall I thought it was one of ITV's best cards to date, enjoyed it.

WayoftheCass · Post by **WayoftheCass** » 02 Sep 2006, 19:08

lvlarc_uk wrote:Well the show has finished, overall I thought it was one of ITV's best cards to date, enjoyed it.

I enjoyed the fights. If you could combine ITV cards with Sky's analysis and commentary you would be on to a winner. One good thing about Amir getting fed another tomato Khan was that he slapped him silly quick enough to let us see M'Baye-Balbi.

tonyevs · Post by **tonyevs** » 02 Sep 2006, 19:09

Its a totally shit commentry team alltogether, Duke is just shit...I have tried to be polite before but the guy is just shit..." I scored the 3rd for Johnson" which just happened to be a very good rnd for Clinton...and that old fella Rawlings is just an advert for age concern....and McGuigan...Khan wants to keep his arse against a wall when Barry`s about

Sky got some stick in the past but since they cleared out the rubbish they have gone from strength to strength...and ITV just lap it up

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 02 Sep 2006, 19:11

WayoftheCass wrote:
lvlarc_uk wrote:Well the show has finished, overall I thought it was one of ITV's best cards to date, enjoyed it.
I enjoyed the fights. If you could combine ITV cards with Sky's analysis and commentary you would be on to a winner. One good thing about Amir getting fed another tomato Khan was that he slapped him silly quick enough to let us see M'Baye-Balbi.

Yes, imagine if it would have gone the distance - we wouldn't have seen any of that fight... and it was a classic.

holyfields_ear · Post by **holyfields_ear** » 02 Sep 2006, 19:24

"Johnson seems to be throwing just arm punches now"

BANG!!! Johnson presses Woods against the ropes and nails him with a right. John Rawling should ask Clinton whether he thought it was an arm punch

The commentary IS getting better though I suppose it depends on the quality of the fights aswell. Duke McKenzie just needs to calm down telling everybody fighter X is gone when they're clearly not and we'll be alright.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 02 Sep 2006, 21:07

tonyevs wrote:and McGuigan...Khan wants to keep his arse against a wall when Barry`s about :

To be fair, with the current situation with ITV boxing McGuigan has only got two prospects to rave about - so really its his job to keep punters interested.

He know longer has the likes of John Murray domestically and the likes of Escobedo, Chavez Jnr, Paez Jnr etc to discuss.

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 03 Sep 2006, 03:01

How come Rosenthal twice said Woods was "battered" by Johnson in the second fight? I don't remember that bit

earsjohn · Post by **earsjohn** » 03 Sep 2006, 07:54

Razor wrote:Blah blah blah... This is what does my head in bout people on this board. All the complaining. At the end of the day im happy its on terestrial tv, they are goin out to a wider audience not just us boxing fanatics.

All the time on here its people complaining about things cause they arnt up to your perfect standards. Seriously take a step back and just enjoy the fights. Seriously stop complainin about things it weas a great fight... After every broadcast after ITV theres one of these posts.

If there wasnt no boxing on TV people would moan, and when it is they still moan. Does my head in

(this aint aimed at anyone in particular)

Of course its great that it's on Terrestrial, with a wider audience exposure, but they do need to beef up their coverage to keep people interested. Last night was a great card and after the drama of the Woods Johnson fight, there is a good argument for showing the rest of the card (Jenings, etc) on one of their Digital platforms, or as part of a Sunday re-run. However all we get is Khan and M'Baye, following the news and 2 lots of weather. The Khan fight was shown not long before midnight - this is a chap who has a great presence in British sport - surely he would be able to attract a TV audience earlier in the evening and certainly the following day? Showing his fights at either of these times, would attract more people, especially in the younger age groups.

I mean, Curtis Woodhouse is getting his fight shown on ITV4 and he is famous for being an average footballer who decided he wanted to follow his lifelong passion for boxing. So where is the justification for not showcasing the likes of Michael Jennings and Denton Vassell.

Overall, I'd give ITV 6/10 for their performance - good showing overall, but definitely areas for improvement.

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 03 Sep 2006, 08:15

lvlarc_uk wrote:I wasn't really paying much attention to commentary, though I did laugh when the ITV team claimed the winner would be the best LightHeavy in the world.......Adamek, Erdei, Tarver, Dawson?

Erdei's the linear to me though.

Ain't seen Adamek or Tizzo to see whos the best though.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 03 Sep 2006, 08:30

Not sure how much he has left, but it seems like Danny Green is set to move up. Fighting Jason De Lisle (or De Lesley as "Dukey" called him).

Could make an interesting addition.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 03 Sep 2006, 08:43

Next On ITV

Friday September 8 - ITV4, 2130-2330:

Mark Hobson v Roman Kracik (Vacant WBU cruiserweight title)
Kevin Mitchell v TBA (IBF intercontinental super-featherweight title)
Curtis Woodhouse v TBA (light-middleweight)

Saturday October 14 - ITV1, (TBA):

Joe Calzaghe v Sakio Bika (IBF & WBO super-middleweight titles)

Chesney_Chambers · Post by **Chesney_Chambers** » 03 Sep 2006, 09:43

Razor wrote:Blah blah blah... This is what does my head in bout people on this board. All the complaining. At the end of the day im happy its on terestrial tv, they are goin out to a wider audience not just us boxing fanatics.

All the time on here its people complaining about things cause they arnt up to your perfect standards. Seriously take a step back and just enjoy the fights. Seriously stop complainin about things it weas a great fight... After every broadcast after ITV theres one of these posts.

If there wasnt no boxing on TV people would moan, and when it is they still moan. Does my head in

(this aint aimed at anyone in particular)

Excellent post

emma · Post by **emma** » 03 Sep 2006, 09:47

KOJOE90 wrote:Next On ITV

Friday September 8 - ITV4, 2130-2330:

Mark Hobson v Roman Kracik (Vacant WBU cruiserweight title)
Kevin Mitchell v TBA (IBF intercontinental super-featherweight title)
Curtis Woodhouse v TBA (light-middleweight)

Saturday October 14 - ITV1, (TBA):

Joe Calzaghe v Sakio Bika (IBF & WBO super-middleweight titles)

Which means we will get the full Hobson fight, 3 rounds of Mitchell and a quick highlight of Woodhouse.