There's so little between Slack and Tom Johnson, that it's really impossible to reconstruct the lineage with any certainty. If you look at the contemporary sources there are a number of fights that contradict the tradional lineage. There doesn't seem to be any record of Tom Juchau and George Milsom ...

Caractacus wrote: ↑08 Oct 2021, 13:02 seroiusly, that person does look really familiar.
I think I've seen his photogaph in a History of Boxing book somewhere,
if it isn't Harry Greb, could it be Johnny Dundee ?

Maybe its DB Cooper?

https://boxrec.com/en/event/242467/1525277
Jem Mace had this one at 66, but it was a pretty friendly sparring session reading the reports, with the crowd being allowed to give the decision.

I looked up how the black fighters mentioned did against non-black heavyweights who got shot against Louis. Turkey Thompson - Beat Godoy, was 2-0 vs Gus Dorazio, 0-2 vs Pastor, had a draw with both Simon and Tony Musto. Jimmy Bivins - Beat Tammy Mauriello, lost to Musto, 1-1 vs Pastor. Lem franklin...

The date is wrong, The Daily Picayune 18 feb 1890 (page 2) and The Times Democrat 18 feb 1890 (page 7), both report is having happened the previous day, which would be 17 feb 1890. The Charley Johnson and Louis Bezenah (the report spells Bezinah) fight is reported on he card in The Daily Picayune, s...

I really can't see any objection.

He's prone to hand injuries, he doesn't have brittle bone disease. If they had much worse hands, Robinson and Ali could just fought more and range, and threw lighter punches. Duran would have a much harder time. Tons of fighters have had hand issues to one extent or another, especially back when the...

What sort of thing are you looking for? How much do you know already? If you're getting started, the best place to start is next day newspaper reports for fights. Ones from the day of the fight are often good too. https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/10991 Luckily most of his fights were in New York so th...

No one going to mention Tony Galento at 1:06?

I'd say mostly rated fairly and at times overrated.

Really a pretty shallow record outside of his series with Greb. His HW resume consists almost entirely of beating shot Dempsey twice, once coming off a three year layoff, and coming off a fight he deserved to lose to Jack Sharkey.

The fight was actually scheduled for 20 rounds, but Hart quit at the end of the 12 claiming a broken right hand, so the referee declared Gardner the winner.

From the The Courier Journal (of Louisville) from 13th of May (page 9) and 14 of May (page 9)

WDQ5 Jimmy Britt really shouldn't be included. Britt beat the shit out of Gans until getting DQ'd for hitting Gans while down.
Griffo was pretty shot when Gans beat him too

No, but I'll look

Edit: I found a report in The Sportsmen but it's basically unreadable
Edit 2: Might have been Jack Scales
Edit: 3: Looks like he had a good few exhibitions at that venue, do you know the specific date?

That one is usually referred to as as fix. Why the newspapers did bring this up immediately is interesting. When I searched reports before I found 6 saying it was legit, 4 calling it a fix or questionable, and 3 with no explicit comment (which I would take as legit). Probably some I missed. There w...

:TU: Thanks. BTW, I can't remember if I posted this already, Tim Callahan's record currently shows him as having a win over Mysterious Billy Smith. The pre-fight reports state The Philidelphia Inquirer- 21 April 1898 The semi-wind-up is creating no end of interest among the local sports. It will be...

Sporting Life says it was 8 rounds long and White won, not 6 rounds with Roberts winning Sporting Life - 16 Mar 1895 A NIGHT AT BOB HABBIJAM's FOUR TOUGH CONTESTS PROVIDE SPORT AND FUN FOR A MIXED CROWD OF SPORTSMEN. When Bob Habbijam issues invitation to his patrons to come and see a bit of fun, hi...

From what I've seen the reports are all over the place, but Corbett seems to have been doing better when it was stopped.

There's also a lot of questionableness in if the Corbett McCoy fight was a fix too, the majority of next day reports I've seen don't call it a fix.

I just want to add a bit of context to that tournament (which I never came close to finishing because there wasn't much interest, and I ended up being a bit unhappy with the selection of fighters I made), I basically included anyone suggested, I think I ended up including 128 fighters, so naturally ...

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/31484
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/265452

Same person

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/270253
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/40213

Same boxer, though I'm not sure if the fight with Slade was just an exhibition, the San Francisco Examiner says it was 3 rounds

Good question, I don't have the answer, but an interesting point no one has brought up is that teenage refers to the ages that end in "teen" and so nineteen is in fact teenage.

I don't think Hart's claim is any stronger than Maher's

I have longer footage than this in my possession but without the KO. Now I know why, interesting story. There are two known original prints still in existence, in full. One in a collection in europe. The other was at the MOMA a few years ago. so why haven't they been down-loaded anywhere then ? The...

lillywhite14 wrote: ↑22 Sep 2019, 02:20 She also shouldn’t have an Olympic gold medal either. Helps having a large profile, especially in women’s boxing.

That's probably a big part of it. Women's boxing has so few names, one of them losing would be a big problem.

Makes sense, to rebuild after two losses

(hope I'm the first to make that joke)