f w read Kevin Mitchell the riot act

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whicker wrote:
rhino222 wrote:so katsidis spends a couple of months shacked up in a hell hole in tailand, rough digs etc......

mitchell nips home after training to his wife or his mums.....

i think these 2 scenarios explain the result.. !!
Rather than the fact that Katsidis has mixed with genuine world class opposition, and is a very tough and talented boxer?

Katsidis had Mitchell in round 3 with some strong punching, and he won with his agressive finish. Nothing else really needs to be added (or taken away) from that result.
I agree with this reply. End of the day Mitchell was nowhere near the level of Katsidis, those things are sounding like excuses. If he can't get his private life sorted and keeps falling out with his scally missus then he should get out of boxing. He should be holed up away from his family for 3 months if that's what it takes to get him focussed, boxing is all about sacrifices.

But at the end of the day to me it looked like a man in with a boy in there, Katsidis looked massive at the weight and just blew away Mitchell with such ease. It was sad to see how many holes there were in Mitchell's defence once someone genuinely put him under some pressure, he fell apart and couldn;t take the power at world level.

I think Mitchell can still do something up to maybe Euro level but on that showing he is never gona do much at world level.
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Re: f w read Kevin Mitchell the riot act

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Brute wrote:
MatthewS wrote:we all have off days and obviously its hard to say to Mitchell 'sort your marriage out before you sign up for a fight' but if your personal life affects ur job - and ur job can get u killed - then there needs to be stability there
Maybe you would do it the way the Army does in wartime? If a soldier's wife is causing him grief, get him a divorce! :lol:
Or maybe he should go to Thailand or Cyprus or live above the gym.... end of the day there is a world-level fighter holding that belt who for his next fight will be training in jungles and tropical heat... and it aint Mitchell.

He needs to earn a living but maybe he should sort out his personal life and then take the next fight.
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whicker wrote:
rhino222 wrote:so katsidis spends a couple of months shacked up in a hell hole in tailand, rough digs etc......

mitchell nips home after training to his wife or his mums.....

i think these 2 scenarios explain the result.. !!
Rather than the fact that Katsidis has mixed with genuine world class opposition, and is a very tough and talented boxer?

Katsidis had Mitchell in round 3 with some strong punching, and he won with his agressive finish. Nothing else really needs to be added (or taken away) from that result.

To be totally fair to Frank and Jimmy Tibbs they were both adamant that nothing should be taken away from Katsidis, He done a great job, They just both looked very annoyed at Kevin,Kevin to his credit took it on the chin and admitted that things hadn't gone so smoothly BUT he also said he didn't think it would have went any different had he prepared like he did for Prescott.. Nothing should be taken away from Katsidis, The guy is a fearsome unit!!
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Mitchell wasn't ready or rounded enough for the step up.

They thought Katsidas was worn out - well he wasn't.

Katsidas would give someone like Hatton a great fight at Hatton's best so lickle Kevin was never going to be a problem.

Perhaps it also shows the how absolutely pointless these 7 years in the making pristine records are.

Khan has improved massively since he got splattered.

Maybe Mitchell, can to.
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there are fighter like murray who would kill for that chance a world championship fight in front of 15,000 of his own fans in his own country
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didnt kev say ,when talking to ray winstone ,he was still having the odd curry because he could make weight comfortable,pardon me but did kev not have too strip naked to weighin....
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This is a ridiculous excuse. I keep saying it: Kevin Mitchell is not very good. That's why he got beat.
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TJAY wrote:there are fighter like murray who would kill for that chance a world championship fight in front of 15,000 of his own fans in his own country

Murray would kill for 15,000 fans, full stop.
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DavidPayne wrote:Katsidas would give someone like Hatton a great fight at Hatton's best so lickle Kevin was never going to be a problem.
yeah.

he;d have given rick a good fight alright.

hatton would have won though. :TU:

still would i think. :twisted:
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I haven't heard Mitchell declaring at an 'excuse'.

I agree, he wasn't up to the task unfortunately - but he's not hid behind this as a reason.
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DavidPayne wrote:Mitchell wasn't ready or rounded enough for the step up.

They thought Katsidas was worn out - well he wasn't.

Katsidas would give someone like Hatton a great fight at Hatton's best so lickle Kevin was never going to be a problem.

Perhaps it also shows the how absolutely pointless these 7 years in the making pristine records are.

Khan has improved massively since he got splattered.

Maybe Mitchell, can to.
mitchell is making the same mistakes he made in the johanesson fight, about 3 years ago. he takes a bomb, his guard drops, he goes static, and keeps taking more bombs. before his head's cleared, he starts trying to line up his own power shots. always felt mitchell was talented in terms of his jab and his movement, but that his shoulder roll doesn't quite work and that he doesn't have that "solidness" that would allow him to bring everything together on an important night.

i actually thought prescott was going to eat him, mitchell did well that night (though it involved a lot of running and few clean shots) but his ambitions in world level didn't go much further.
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I think allegedly has every right to have given Kevin Mitchell the rocket that he has given him after that loss to Michael Katsidis on Saturday down at Upton Park. It was his first chance a world title (even though it is an interim belt), that could have launched into a major British and World star and would have given him the opportunity to fight a future hall of famer and ring legend in the shape of Juan Marquel Marquez. But he blew because he cutting corners and too busy trying to sort out his married life, and refused a training camp to get away from it all. Plus he put the money up to use Upton Park to host the fight to give Mitchell the biggest amount of exposure that he has had to date in his career and he blows it.

At 26, he is lucky that he still has time on side to show what he can really do, but he needs to get his act with personal life otherwise he will not fufill his potential.
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IRLangmaid25 wrote: Plus he put the money up to use Upton Park to host the fight
Presumably, though, he got that back on ticket sales?
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What did Mitchell get for the fight?
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whicker wrote:
IRLangmaid25 wrote: Plus he put the money up to use Upton Park to host the fight
Presumably, though, he got that back on ticket sales?
No chance.

Venue was nowehre hear as full as expected (MattS bought a lower tier seating ticket and ended up bout 8 rows from inner ringside!).
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hitman_hatton1 wrote:
DavidPayne wrote:Katsidas would give someone like Hatton a great fight at Hatton's best so lickle Kevin was never going to be a problem.
yeah.

he;d have given rick a good fight alright.

hatton would have won though. :TU:

still would i think. :twisted:
Not sure how much Hatton would have left, piss poor diet, long draining training camps, inactivity, and questionable punch resistance.
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Poncey wrote: Venue was nowehre hear as full as expected
What was the official crowd? I heard about 18000 - thats still very good.

I wonder what they were expecting?
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Poncey wrote:
whicker wrote:
IRLangmaid25 wrote: Plus he put the money up to use Upton Park to host the fight
Presumably, though, he got that back on ticket sales?
No chance.

Venue was nowehre hear as full as expected (MattS bought a lower tier seating ticket and ended up bout 8 rows from inner ringside!).
:OhYes:
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whicker wrote:
Poncey wrote: Venue was nowehre hear as full as expected
What was the official crowd? I heard about 18000 - thats still very good.

I wonder what they were expecting?
Try 10000. Only 2 half of lower tiers and 2 half of top tiers were open in the end. If you ever believe officailly released figures from any Promoter Ill tell you another!

Real shame as it was a great show. And there was also screens for the top tiers.

Was also surprised to not see any Oz fans there. No flags. Nowt.
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I keep banging on about this, but I hope us Brits get behind Katsidis. His attitude impressed me, for a man who seems like he's just been fcuked about in his career with little favours along the way.
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Poncey wrote:
whicker wrote:
Poncey wrote: Venue was nowehre hear as full as expected
What was the official crowd? I heard about 18000 - thats still very good.

I wonder what they were expecting?
Try 10000. Only 2 half of lower tiers and 2 half of top tiers were open in the end. If you ever believe officailly released figures from any Promoter Ill tell you another!

Real shame as it was a great show. And there was also screens for the top tiers.

Was also surprised to not see any Oz fans there. No flags. Nowt.
must have been more than that, the bobby moore stand was pretty much packed, plenty on the floor and the two side stands had a few in
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The moon is made of cheese.
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I posted on here the day after the attendance. I think it was in the 14k mark.
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