your the type that goes into a boozer with a mixed white stonewash denim jacket with the collars up & stand's near the centre of the bar. you'll never make scotland yard sunshine
There's nothing wrong with my jacket
I'll have you know hurlock, "Mr.Fox" is a very dapper dresser. He can afford to be after he finishes shaking down all the pimps and nonces on his "patch". I especially admire his bright yellow Timberland (c) flasher mack (mack is also, coincidentally, another term for a pimp).
johnnygreaves wrote:He once had a full team if bouncers standing against the wall & made them pat their heads whilst rubbing their tummy,s just to take the piss out of them.. & he really does clear a busy pub . The bomb is a legend!
Is he that hard though Johnny or is it that people can't be doing with the grief. In Doncaster there are some right horrible swines; there are people that could beat em but it's not worth the smashed windows, torched cars, kids shouted at on the way to school. There's not being a push over and there's evil. To my mind if trouble comes and you can't get away then you've to do your best not to get hurt; if you're out looking to humiliate or hurt someone else; I'm sorry; but you're twisted.
I'd love to come down to York Hall to watch the boxing; hopefully on your 100th bout but if some heavy lunatic comes in and scares everyone to death through what he might do I'd not be impressed; to be honest Johnny I'd just think they were a bully and there's pubs up in Doncaster where the mood changes and everyone leaves when a nutter comes in.
Everyone is pleased when they get done in; I know a man who is supposedly popular and has battered loads through the years; he was chinned at Christmas and not one person has been able to tell the story without grinning.
at the end of the day he's a old man now he'll be 59 on the 19th with bill he dont take sh"t off no one and if your in a pub and bum licking him he'll just take the piss with you, you see it all the time with all you young fellas in a pub right up his arse
I'd like to think you ain't saying I sit in pubs up bills arse . I know bill from the gym & the manor. Never kissed anyone's arse. & I don't drink in pubs .
johnnygreaves wrote:I'd like to think you ain't saying I sit in pubs up bills arse . I know bill from the gym & the manor. Never kissed anyone's arse. & I don't drink in pubs .
I don't think he was referring to you. It probably happens all the time with various local legends up and down the country. When are Blake going to write a book about him?
Look , by saying the bomb is a legend. I mean everybody from east London knows of him. The fact he isn't a nice bloke means I would never brown nose the bloke. In fact I know some capers he's got up to are plain wrong. I'm not a young pleb who thinks its cool to be like that. I've two kids & try to lead by example. I respect gentlemen more. Don't think the bomb could be called a gentleman
You put it well there Johnny; there's a well known hard case in South Yorkshire who has been known to settle drug related debts by rape (both man and woman). He is also a man no one will tangle with, as there is only one possible outcome. By no stretch could he be seen as someone to look up to or emulate.
simon fox wrote:You put it well there Johnny; there's a well known hard case in South Yorkshire who has been known to settle drug related debts by rape (both man and woman). He is also a man no one will tangle with, as there is only one possible outcome. By no stretch could he be seen as someone to look up to or emulate.
Simon, that bloke from Yorkshire your talking about aint Paul Sykes (boxer in the 70s), from Wakefeild is he? Good documentarie about him on youtube. Boxed John L Gardner. Sykes was a raving lunatic up north. In and out prisons' all his life. Was going to fight Lenny McLean at one stage. He ended up an alcoholic tramp. He died 3 or 4 years ago from liver cirrhosis. He apparently back in the day...used to prey on, or "rape" other men in Wakefeild nick. Alot of people say he was a real "character" who was very funny; others say a psychopathic bully esp when steaming. Both his sons are now doing life for two separate murders.
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I don't think it matters really Tommy my old son, his name's already been mentioned in a lot of published books and local newspaper articles already. Anyway, ...he's an ex-pro fighter; this is a boxing forum.
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johnnygreaves wrote:I'd like to think you ain't saying I sit in pubs up bills arse . I know bill from the gym & the manor. Never kissed anyone's arse. & I don't drink in pubs .
I am in the pub boys, licking my wounds. Skeete wad v good. Just give away to much weight. Would've got thru I think at my normal weight but that'd not to take away from brad, he wad class . I had a go, what more can you do? Never box at welter again , that's Deffo
Eddy wrote:Simon, that bloke from Yorkshire your talking about aint Paul Sykes (boxer in the 70s), from Wakefeild is he? Good documentarie about him on youtube. Boxed John L Gardner. Sykes was a raving lunatic up north. In and out prisons' all his life. Was going to fight Lenny McLean at one stage. He ended up an alcoholic tramp. He died 3 or 4 years ago from liver cirrhosis. He apparently back in the day...used to prey on, or "rape" other men in Wakefeild nick. Alot of people say he was a real "character" who was very funny; others say a psychopathic bully esp when steaming. Both his sons are now doing life for two separate murders.
paul sykes could really dig. his old man was a screw & used to batter him & produced an insecure bully.john L gardiner was a tough driven pro who could climb off the floor & win regardless of being skillfully limited & showed sykes who the daddy was.
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I'd love to come down to York Hall to watch the boxing; hopefully on your 100th bout but if some heavy lunatic comes in and scares everyone to death through what he might do I'd not be impressed; to be honest Johnny I'd just think they were a bully and there's pubs up in Doncaster where the mood changes and everyone leaves when a nutter comes in.
Everyone is pleased when they get done in; I know a man who is supposedly popular and has battered loads through the years; he was chinned at Christmas and not one person has been able to tell the story without grinning.[/quote]
id class a bully as someone who is calculated. the bomb is far from that :!: sure he's taken his hidings but he comes back hard.if you entertain him you have to kill him & thats why he is given a wide birth coz he is a handfull :!: ive known him to be found naked down a high st. & near enough sectioned :!: charles bronson has nightmares about the bomb DD he aint a bully he's a scitso who dont know how too handle people if he finds them a bit monkey...simple as.
Very intresting hurlock. From what I'm told by people, I always thought that he was hard man that went turbo nut-nut at the drop of a hat. So it seems there's more to it than that. It would be good if Boxing News did an article/interview with him. I'm sure many (esp east London area) would be interested.
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Boxrec Billy Williams Barking. I think he was 14-1 (7) Started his career in States. He avenged his defeat against Johny Wall, who if you go on to youtube and type, Lenny McLean Sparring; Wall is the man sparring "the Guv'nur."
Tell you what hurlock. We ain't agreed on everything but that's pretty much bill in a nutshell. Don't think he'd start on ya for the sake of it, upset him & Youl get a dig. No questions . I wouldn't say the man's a bully. Just someone you'd be better not to start on. If you don't put him away you better be well prepped for a massive comeback
simon fox wrote:You put it well there Johnny; there's a well known hard case in South Yorkshire who has been known to settle drug related debts by rape (both man and woman). He is also a man no one will tangle with, as there is only one possible outcome. By no stretch could he be seen as someone to look up to or emulate.
johnnygreaves wrote:Tell you what hurlock. We ain't agreed on everything but that's pretty much bill in a nutshell. Don't think he'd start on ya for the sake of it, upset him & Youl get a dig. No questions . I wouldn't say the man's a bully. Just someone you'd be better not to start on. If you don't put him away you better be well prepped for a massive comeback
Is he still a big puncher then Johnny? What is it that makes him so feared?
I think its a mix of a tew things. Everyone had a story . Some quite heavy. Some just don't know if their at risk being in the same pub. Some people elaborate on the tails of the bomb , suppose people don't know what to expect & that leads to fear. All you have to do is look at bill to see a bit of a nutcase. People know him just thru stories and some frighten people
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It probably happens all the time with various local legends up and down the country. When are Blake going to write a book about him?