Clev seemed pretty happy with his display and he should be. I expected that to be less competitive.taffytoon wrote:Good contest; Clev should have boxed and moved more; his nose and ear looks painful !!
Andrzej Fonfara (c) vs. Nathan Cleverly - October 16th 2015
Re: Andrzej Fonfara (c) vs. Nathan Cleverly - October 16th 2015
Re: Andrzej Fonfara (c) vs. Nathan Cleverly - October 16th 2015
Fair Decision.
Fonfara hit a little harder and edged workrate, Clev was more accurate, but couldn't sustain his attacks.
Rematch in Wales and w/o broken nose - Clev would be favourite imo, but Fonfara deserved it tonight.
Fonfara hit a little harder and edged workrate, Clev was more accurate, but couldn't sustain his attacks.
Rematch in Wales and w/o broken nose - Clev would be favourite imo, but Fonfara deserved it tonight.
Re: Andrzej Fonfara (c) vs. Nathan Cleverly - October 16th 2015
Great scrap that SteveSteveDow wrote:Clev seemed pretty happy with his display and he should be. I expected that to be less competitive.taffytoon wrote:Good contest; Clev should have boxed and moved more; his nose and ear looks painful !!
Re: Andrzej Fonfara (c) vs. Nathan Cleverly - October 16th 2015
Over 2500 punches thrown between them and nearly a 1000 landed.new LHW record
Re: Andrzej Fonfara (c) vs. Nathan Cleverly - October 16th 2015
Yes mate. Great weekend of sport ahead.taffytoon wrote:Great scrap that SteveSteveDow wrote:Clev seemed pretty happy with his display and he should be. I expected that to be less competitive.taffytoon wrote:Good contest; Clev should have boxed and moved more; his nose and ear looks painful !!
Re: Andrzej Fonfara (c) vs. Nathan Cleverly - October 16th 2015
115-113 Fonfara
Kind of what I expected. Fonfara is good but not much better than Clev.
Kind of what I expected. Fonfara is good but not much better than Clev.
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ShadrachSimmo
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Re: Andrzej Fonfara (c) vs. Nathan Cleverly - October 16th 2015
Surprised it was a close fight I thought Fonfara would have won handily.
Where now for Clev? Domestic/European level?
Where now for Clev? Domestic/European level?
Re: Andrzej Fonfara (c) vs. Nathan Cleverly - October 16th 2015
Just watched it but my sky + stopped in 11th round. Didnt think that happened anymore. Cracking fight though.
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Counter-puncher
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Re: Andrzej Fonfara (c) vs. Nathan Cleverly - October 16th 2015
fvcking hell sounds like it was a really good card
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wesshaw1985
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Re: Andrzej Fonfara (c) vs. Nathan Cleverly - October 16th 2015
back to Wales as a co-main to Selby.ShadrachSimmo wrote:Surprised it was a close fight I thought Fonfara would have won handily.
Where now for Clev? Domestic/European level?
Potential opponent -
Bika?
Ajisafe?
Krasniqi?
Campillo?
Dickinson?
Re: Andrzej Fonfara (c) vs. Nathan Cleverly - October 16th 2015
Enzo Mac ?wesshaw1985 wrote:back to Wales as a co-main to Selby.ShadrachSimmo wrote:Surprised it was a close fight I thought Fonfara would have won handily.
Where now for Clev? Domestic/European level?
Potential opponent -
Bika?
Ajisafe?
Krasniqi?
Campillo?
Dickinson?
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Boxerbeetle
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Re: Andrzej Fonfara (c) vs. Nathan Cleverly - October 16th 2015
My recording stopped with 90 seconds of the 12th remaining. Fvck Sky, they should have extended the programme.Gazmac81 wrote:Just watched it but my sky + stopped in 11th round. Didnt think that happened anymore. Cracking fight though.
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handsofstone
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Re: Andrzej Fonfara (c) vs. Nathan Cleverly - October 16th 2015
Terrific performance from Cleverly i knew he had the heart in him to compete at this level again he just got pipped to the post,115-114 Fonfara on my card,i thought the cards would be wider because of the mess of Nathan's face which could sometimes sway judges,his ear went the same way Mitchell's did against Murray
It was an absolute barnstormer of a fight and both guys gave and took a lot,Cleverly rocked Fonfara's head back countless times with uppercuts but faded understandably down the stretch but was still competitive throughout,Fonfara's better engine won it and he probably conserved his energy better than Nathan
Hopefully Cleverly has regained the respect he lost after the Kovalev and Bellew losses
It was an absolute barnstormer of a fight and both guys gave and took a lot,Cleverly rocked Fonfara's head back countless times with uppercuts but faded understandably down the stretch but was still competitive throughout,Fonfara's better engine won it and he probably conserved his energy better than Nathan
Hopefully Cleverly has regained the respect he lost after the Kovalev and Bellew losses
Re: Andrzej Fonfara (c) vs. Nathan Cleverly - October 16th 2015
I always set to record the 2 shows following, been burnt before like you were last night.Boxerbeetle wrote:My recording stopped with 90 seconds of the 12th remaining. Fvck Sky, they should have extended the programme.Gazmac81 wrote:Just watched it but my sky + stopped in 11th round. Didnt think that happened anymore. Cracking fight though.
Re: Andrzej Fonfara (c) vs. Nathan Cleverly - October 16th 2015
I actually scored that a draw, i had Clev 5-1 up after 6 then gave him the tenth.
I could understand one or two of those closer early rounds going to fonfara, so no complaints about the scores. And I couldn't make much of an argument for Clev in most of those later rounds.
I think the broken nose probably was the decisive factor
But what a bloody good couple of fights. Cleverly could win that in Wales and I feel he can keep pushing on to fight at that kind of level. The confidence is back and theres no benefit of him dropping a level.
I'd try for a re-run of Fonfara or see if the Braemer option is still there for him.
I could understand one or two of those closer early rounds going to fonfara, so no complaints about the scores. And I couldn't make much of an argument for Clev in most of those later rounds.
I think the broken nose probably was the decisive factor
But what a bloody good couple of fights. Cleverly could win that in Wales and I feel he can keep pushing on to fight at that kind of level. The confidence is back and theres no benefit of him dropping a level.
I'd try for a re-run of Fonfara or see if the Braemer option is still there for him.
Re: Andrzej Fonfara (c) vs. Nathan Cleverly - October 16th 2015
Quite strange. My Sky+ recorded about 12 minutes after the decision. Got the interview, ads, bellew analysis and the credits.samwbr wrote:I always set to record the 2 shows following, been burnt before like you were last night.Boxerbeetle wrote:My recording stopped with 90 seconds of the 12th remaining. Fvck Sky, they should have extended the programme.Gazmac81 wrote:Just watched it but my sky + stopped in 11th round. Didnt think that happened anymore. Cracking fight though.
Re: Andrzej Fonfara (c) vs. Nathan Cleverly - October 16th 2015
I hope that gives Cleverly a bit more mental confidence. Proven to himself, and others, that he can still compete at world level.
For me, he needs to treat it like any other sportsman, where a loss doesn't matter too much given the circumstance. A footballer coming back from poor form might get benched or subbed off after 60 mins, an athlete might come third or fourth in a few races (look at Ennis before the world champs). Its all about feeling your way back in and getting over the mental block.
Big scrap (in Wales) on a Selby undercard or on a keep busy fight at 5pm on a matchroom / fight pass card next for me.
Well done Clev!
For me, he needs to treat it like any other sportsman, where a loss doesn't matter too much given the circumstance. A footballer coming back from poor form might get benched or subbed off after 60 mins, an athlete might come third or fourth in a few races (look at Ennis before the world champs). Its all about feeling your way back in and getting over the mental block.
Big scrap (in Wales) on a Selby undercard or on a keep busy fight at 5pm on a matchroom / fight pass card next for me.
Well done Clev!
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wesshaw1985
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Re: Andrzej Fonfara (c) vs. Nathan Cleverly - October 16th 2015
y'all must've forgot, big enzo is chasing Roy Jones jnr...Naandrew wrote:Enzo Mac ?wesshaw1985 wrote:back to Wales as a co-main to Selby.ShadrachSimmo wrote:Surprised it was a close fight I thought Fonfara would have won handily.
Where now for Clev? Domestic/European level?
Potential opponent -
Bika?
Ajisafe?
Krasniqi?
Campillo?
Dickinson?
Re: Andrzej Fonfara (c) vs. Nathan Cleverly - October 16th 2015
He did very well; if it were me I would drop back to British title level; win the Lonsdale outright and then go for Brahmer.
Re: Andrzej Fonfara (c) vs. Nathan Cleverly - October 16th 2015
2 excellent bouts, they really got stuck in and did their very upmost to win.Counter-puncher wrote:fvcking hell sounds like it was a really good card
Re: Andrzej Fonfara (c) vs. Nathan Cleverly - October 16th 2015
Well done to Cleverly, nothing wrong with his heart.
Haymon might be keen Cleverly/Beterbiev now, not sure I'd want to see that.
Haymon might be keen Cleverly/Beterbiev now, not sure I'd want to see that.
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Boxerbeetle
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Re: Andrzej Fonfara (c) vs. Nathan Cleverly - October 16th 2015
That would be a nightmare match for Cleverly, Beterbiev would destroy him in a rerun of the Kovalev fight. Clev should be targeting Braehmer imo.J-C wrote:Well done to Cleverly, nothing wrong with his heart.
Haymon might be keen Cleverly/Beterbiev now, not sure I'd want to see that.
Was delighted to see Cleverly looking more like his former self, although he still doesn't look anywhere near where he was before. I actually think he would have beaten Fonfara relatively comfortably if they'd fought 3 or 4 years ago.
Re: Andrzej Fonfara (c) vs. Nathan Cleverly - October 16th 2015
I'm not sold on Beterbiev yet however the guy clearly has serious power particularly on the inside. I like Cleverly a lot more after last night but he is made for Beterbiev.Boxerbeetle wrote:That would be a nightmare match for Cleverly, Beterbiev would destroy him in a rerun of the Kovalev fight. Clev should be targeting Braehmer imo.J-C wrote:Well done to Cleverly, nothing wrong with his heart.
Haymon might be keen Cleverly/Beterbiev now, not sure I'd want to see that.
Was delighted to see Cleverly looking more like his former self, although he still doesn't look anywhere near where he was before. I actually think he would have beaten Fonfara relatively comfortably if they'd fought 3 or 4 years ago.
Re: Andrzej Fonfara (c) vs. Nathan Cleverly - October 16th 2015
Naandrew wrote:I'm not sold on Beterbiev yet however the guy clearly has serious power particularly on the inside. I like Cleverly a lot more after last night but he is made for Beterbiev.Boxerbeetle wrote:That would be a nightmare match for Cleverly, Beterbiev would destroy him in a rerun of the Kovalev fight. Clev should be targeting Braehmer imo.J-C wrote:Well done to Cleverly, nothing wrong with his heart.
Haymon might be keen Cleverly/Beterbiev now, not sure I'd want to see that.
Was delighted to see Cleverly looking more like his former self, although he still doesn't look anywhere near where he was before. I actually think he would have beaten Fonfara relatively comfortably if they'd fought 3 or 4 years ago.
Re: Andrzej Fonfara (c) vs. Nathan Cleverly - October 16th 2015
tha will have taken a lot out of him, as game as he was he did take a fair shallacking.
Selbey Warrington in Cardiff with Cleverley against Bika is a great shout
Selbey Warrington in Cardiff with Cleverley against Bika is a great shout