Wilder vs Arreola apparently on for July 16th

[Kalan]

If Arreola shows up focused, he has a real chance in the first 2 rounds.

Arreola has NO CHANCE IN HELL!!!!! ... That's what they like, super easy defunct opponents with a name.. If Stiverne out-boxed Arreola 14 of 18 rounds... and Wilder out-boxed Stiverne 12 out of 12 rounds - it goes to show what a miserable boxer Chris is...and if he couldn't get rid of Fred Kassi or Curtis Harper he's not even a real good puncher.. Harper was knocked out twice before by guys who aren't impressive finishers. He really doesn't have enough experience to be called a journeyman. He was picked to get Arreola an easy win ... and he has 2 wins in his last 6 fights. So Arreola has in NO WAY fought his way into a title contention... This is a business fight and Boxing is a business.

[gilgamesh]

I remembered thinking the Kassi fight should've been a draw for Arreola and the Curtis Harper fight I only had Arreola winning by 1 point.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

I remembered thinking the Kassi fight should've been a draw for Arreola and the Curtis Harper fight I only had Arreola winning by 1 point.

I've always known he was awful. Funniest part is if he was in condition he would be a ponderously slow Light Heavy or Cruiser. Never would have done anything.

[Killer Blow]

Way to harsh of a reaction for both guys in this forum. Wilder had a big fight yanked from him late so he had to turn that into a "stay busy" fight" so why not go with a guy that has notoriety and a good amount of followers. I know Arreola is limited but i've watched him for years and i find him entertaining. What do people expect? Wilder to schedule a fight with Ortiz or Joshua and train for them for 3 weeks? No promotional marketing? It's silly.

Arreola's poured his heart out in the ring for years and come a long way with limited ability. I don't care about the failed tests, the guys put it on the line for years and come short. I'd much see a guy like him get a shot then some unknown young punk that hasn't shed a drop of blood in the ring yet.



Go easy here people. The only one to blame for this is Povetkin.

Wrong, all parties except Povetkin are wrong actually.
Povetkin followed all the rules that have been written. Wada and Vada both don't know details about meldonium, but still put it on their illegal substances list and next to that, it hasn't even been proved that it has any positive results on athletes at all and they don't even know how long it takes to completely leave the body. That's why retards write that Povetkin used illegal substances, but in fact he stopped as soon as it became illegal. Actually, if he wanted to use meldonium, he simply accepted the fight in januari and was allowed to have well over 200 times as much meldonium in his body as he actually had. The WBC somehow wants Wada and Vada for odd reasons, probably because they don't have a clue what they are doing as well and Wilder and his team will get sued for blackmailing Povetkin time on time again saying Povetkin is a cheater, while he continually proves and proved he isn't, unlike Wilder btw. Meanwhile Wilder is going to fight someone who clearly did use illegal substances quite recently, a guy that actually did cheat, but appearantly that's not a problem.

In short, it barely matters what party involved you name, all of them can be blamed, except Povetkin.

All you need to do is watch the Takam and Perez fights. It was obvious to anyone with 2 brain cells what Povetkin was up to after seeing those fights.

And how exactly is Wilder more suspicious than Povetkin?

[Tony1244]

I remembered thinking the Kassi fight should've been a draw for Arreola and the Curtis Harper fight I only had Arreola winning by 1 point.

I still like Wilder, but it is a pathetic fight for Wilder to take, even though Povetkin's problems aren't Wilder's fault.

[gilgamesh]

I remembered thinking the Kassi fight should've been a draw for Arreola and the Curtis Harper fight I only had Arreola winning by 1 point.

I've always known he was awful. Funniest part is if he was in condition he would be a ponderously slow Light Heavy or Cruiser. Never would have done anything.

The only significant fight of his where I favored him going in was the first Stiverne fight I'm pretty sure, mainly because Stiverne had lost every round to Ray Austin before knocking him out so I was convinced Stiverne was garbage...still am. Turns out Arreola was even worse.

It's a shame for Travis Kauffman that he lost a split decision to Arreola which was then turned to a NC. I personally thought Kauffman won the fight. Only by a point though.

[gilgamesh]

I remembered thinking the Kassi fight should've been a draw for Arreola and the Curtis Harper fight I only had Arreola winning by 1 point.

I still like Wilder, but it is a pathetic fight for Wilder to take, even though Povetkin's problems aren't Wilder's fault.

I'll never like Wilder I don't think. His entire career is built on scraping the bottom of the barrel, and having an impressive KO percentage, but it's all built up against sh*t competition. This is going to be his 4th WBC Title defense, and he still has only fought ONE Top 10 opponent. I don't know if there's any other titleholder in Boxing that just gets to avoid all noteworthy competition everytime like that.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

I remembered thinking the Kassi fight should've been a draw for Arreola and the Curtis Harper fight I only had Arreola winning by 1 point.

I still like Wilder, but it is a pathetic fight for Wilder to take, even though Povetkin's problems aren't Wilder's fault.

I'll never like Wilder I don't think. His entire career is built on scraping the bottom of the barrel, and having an impressive KO percentage, but it's all built up against sh*t competition. This is going to be his 4th WBC Title defense, and he still has only fought ONE Top 10 opponent. I don't know if there's any other titleholder in Boxing that just gets to avoid all noteworthy competition everytime like that.

If they fight frequently they can. Nothing he could do here. I'm not a fan either, but this is entirely on Povetkin.

[gilgamesh]

I know Povetkin is the one that f*cked it up, but it still annoys me. Wilder's 5th defenses is gonna be someone not Top 10 to. I'd just about guarantee it.

He's gonna reach for the low hanging fruit everytime if he can. I wouldn't doubt his 5th defense is Charles Martin or something.

[Killer Blow]

I know Povetkin is the one that f*cked it up, but it still annoys me. Wilder's 5th defenses is gonna be someone not Top 10 to. I'd just about guarantee it.

He's gonna reach for the low hanging fruit everytime if he can. I wouldn't doubt his 5th defense is Charles Martin or something.

I think he'll be forced to fight a mandatory in his 5th defence, or at least in his 6th. Or he may go for the Fury/Klitchsko winner. It's so annoying he isn't fighting any top 10 guys. All of the potential fights between Wilder and the other top 10 guys (minus Stiverne and maybe Jennings) look so appetising on paper.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

I know Povetkin is the one that f*cked it up, but it still annoys me. Wilder's 5th defenses is gonna be someone not Top 10 to. I'd just about guarantee it.

He's gonna reach for the low hanging fruit everytime if he can. I wouldn't doubt his 5th defense is Charles Martin or something.

Nah, he wants to step up. Though you never know who the WBC is going to make his mandatory. Could well be Martin.

[bigman1968]

I know Povetkin is the one that f*cked it up, but it still annoys me. Wilder's 5th defenses is gonna be someone not Top 10 to. I'd just about guarantee it.

He's gonna reach for the low hanging fruit everytime if he can. I wouldn't doubt his 5th defense is Charles Martin or something.

Nah, he wants to step up. Though you never know who the WBC is going to make his mandatory. Could well be Martin.

Former IBF HW Champion of the World, Charles Martin-))))))

[asdfjkl]

Way to harsh of a reaction for both guys in this forum. Wilder had a big fight yanked from him late so he had to turn that into a "stay busy" fight" so why not go with a guy that has notoriety and a good amount of followers. I know Arreola is limited but i've watched him for years and i find him entertaining. What do people expect? Wilder to schedule a fight with Ortiz or Joshua and train for them for 3 weeks? No promotional marketing? It's silly.

Arreola's poured his heart out in the ring for years and come a long way with limited ability. I don't care about the failed tests, the guys put it on the line for years and come short. I'd much see a guy like him get a shot then some unknown young punk that hasn't shed a drop of blood in the ring yet.



Go easy here people. The only one to blame for this is Povetkin.

Wrong, all parties except Povetkin are wrong actually.
Povetkin followed all the rules that have been written. Wada and Vada both don't know details about meldonium, but still put it on their illegal substances list and next to that, it hasn't even been proved that it has any positive results on athletes at all and they don't even know how long it takes to completely leave the body. That's why retards write that Povetkin used illegal substances, but in fact he stopped as soon as it became illegal. Actually, if he wanted to use meldonium, he simply accepted the fight in januari and was allowed to have well over 200 times as much meldonium in his body as he actually had. The WBC somehow wants Wada and Vada for odd reasons, probably because they don't have a clue what they are doing as well and Wilder and his team will get sued for blackmailing Povetkin time on time again saying Povetkin is a cheater, while he continually proves and proved he isn't, unlike Wilder btw. Meanwhile Wilder is going to fight someone who clearly did use illegal substances quite recently, a guy that actually did cheat, but appearantly that's not a problem.

In short, it barely matters what party involved you name, all of them can be blamed, except Povetkin.

All you need to do is watch the Takam and Perez fights. It was obvious to anyone with 2 brain cells what Povetkin was up to after seeing those fights.

And how exactly is Wilder more suspicious than Povetkin?

Povetkin allways had great stamina, just look at him against Klitschko, he just kept on going going going, no matter how much Klitschko clinched.
And about Wilder, I don't think he's a drugsuser, despite him all of a sudden gaining quite a lot of pounds recently. But I do somehow wonder why there have never been testresults around the Szpilka fight, not before the fight, not after, as far as I know never actually, despite Szpilka asking for it several times.

[Tony1244]

I remembered thinking the Kassi fight should've been a draw for Arreola and the Curtis Harper fight I only had Arreola winning by 1 point.

I still like Wilder, but it is a pathetic fight for Wilder to take, even though Povetkin's problems aren't Wilder's fault.

I'll never like Wilder I don't think. His entire career is built on scraping the bottom of the barrel, and having an impressive KO percentage, but it's all built up against sh*t competition. This is going to be his 4th WBC Title defense, and he still has only fought ONE Top 10 opponent. I don't know if there's any other titleholder in Boxing that just gets to avoid all noteworthy competition everytime like that.

My feelings on Wilder are somewhat mixed. I like almost all Heavyweights who can Hit, so he gets off to a good start with me, but he has been ridiculously overly protected.

Povetkin was going to be a great test which is why we are all so disappointed in the cancellation or postponement or whatever they're calling it now.

[Tony1244]

I still like Wilder, but it is a pathetic fight for Wilder to take, even though Povetkin's problems aren't Wilder's fault.

I'll never like Wilder I don't think. His entire career is built on scraping the bottom of the barrel, and having an impressive KO percentage, but it's all built up against sh*t competition. This is going to be his 4th WBC Title defense, and he still has only fought ONE Top 10 opponent. I don't know if there's any other titleholder in Boxing that just gets to avoid all noteworthy competition everytime like that.

If they fight frequently they can. Nothing he could do here. I'm not a fan either, but this is entirely on Povetkin.

It is entirely on Povetkin to the best of my knowledge. Doesn't mean I'm going to say Arreola is suitable, he isn't. But I'll still watch. Hell, I'd watch if Wilder fought SaadOffTheDeck or gilgameish.

[keithmoonhangover]

If Arreola shows up focused, he has a real chance in the first 2 rounds.

Arreola has NO CHANCE IN HELL!!!!! ... That's what they like, super easy defunct opponents with a name.. If Stiverne out-boxed Arreola 14 of 18 rounds... and Wilder out-boxed Stiverne 12 out of 12 rounds - it goes to show what a miserable boxer Chris is...and if he couldn't get rid of Fred Kassi or Curtis Harper he's not even a real good puncher.. Harper was knocked out twice before by guys who aren't impressive finishers. He really doesn't have enough experience to be called a journeyman. He was picked to get Arreola an easy win ... and he has 2 wins in his last 6 fights. So Arreola has in NO WAY fought his way into a title contention... This is a business fight and Boxing is a business.

Where's your proof of basketball skills transferring to boxing? Are you going to admit you don't have any?

[SaadOffTheDeck]

I'll never like Wilder I don't think. His entire career is built on scraping the bottom of the barrel, and having an impressive KO percentage, but it's all built up against sh*t competition. This is going to be his 4th WBC Title defense, and he still has only fought ONE Top 10 opponent. I don't know if there's any other titleholder in Boxing that just gets to avoid all noteworthy competition everytime like that.

If they fight frequently they can. Nothing he could do here. I'm not a fan either, but this is entirely on Povetkin.

It is entirely on Povetkin to the best of my knowledge. Doesn't mean I'm going to say Arreola is suitable, he isn't. But I'll still watch. Hell, I'd watch if Wilder fought SaadOffTheDeck or gilgameish.

[Tony1244]

If they fight frequently they can. Nothing he could do here. I'm not a fan either, but this is entirely on Povetkin.

It is entirely on Povetkin to the best of my knowledge. Doesn't mean I'm going to say Arreola is suitable, he isn't. But I'll still watch. Hell, I'd watch if Wilder fought SaadOffTheDeck or gilgameish.

How old are you 6? Every time I don't agree with you 100% you send out a Smile. You likely have as many friends as your hero Ted Cruz. Wilder should be given credit for staying active but Arreola is a joke of an opponent.

[Killer Blow]

Wrong, all parties except Povetkin are wrong actually.
Povetkin followed all the rules that have been written. Wada and Vada both don't know details about meldonium, but still put it on their illegal substances list and next to that, it hasn't even been proved that it has any positive results on athletes at all and they don't even know how long it takes to completely leave the body. That's why retards write that Povetkin used illegal substances, but in fact he stopped as soon as it became illegal. Actually, if he wanted to use meldonium, he simply accepted the fight in januari and was allowed to have well over 200 times as much meldonium in his body as he actually had. The WBC somehow wants Wada and Vada for odd reasons, probably because they don't have a clue what they are doing as well and Wilder and his team will get sued for blackmailing Povetkin time on time again saying Povetkin is a cheater, while he continually proves and proved he isn't, unlike Wilder btw. Meanwhile Wilder is going to fight someone who clearly did use illegal substances quite recently, a guy that actually did cheat, but appearantly that's not a problem.

In short, it barely matters what party involved you name, all of them can be blamed, except Povetkin.

All you need to do is watch the Takam and Perez fights. It was obvious to anyone with 2 brain cells what Povetkin was up to after seeing those fights.

And how exactly is Wilder more suspicious than Povetkin?

Povetkin allways had great stamina, just look at him against Klitschko, he just kept on going going going, no matter how much Klitschko clinched.
And about Wilder, I don't think he's a drugsuser, despite him all of a sudden gaining quite a lot of pounds recently. But I do somehow wonder why there have never been testresults around the Szpilka fight, not before the fight, not after, as far as I know never actually, despite Szpilka asking for it several times.

Povetkin has always been a great boxer, but his power significantly improved after the Klitschko fight. Other heavyweights publicly accused him of doping, including one of his opponents.

[asdfjkl]

All you need to do is watch the Takam and Perez fights. It was obvious to anyone with 2 brain cells what Povetkin was up to after seeing those fights.

And how exactly is Wilder more suspicious than Povetkin?

Povetkin allways had great stamina, just look at him against Klitschko, he just kept on going going going, no matter how much Klitschko clinched.
And about Wilder, I don't think he's a drugsuser, despite him all of a sudden gaining quite a lot of pounds recently. But I do somehow wonder why there have never been testresults around the Szpilka fight, not before the fight, not after, as far as I know never actually, despite Szpilka asking for it several times.

Povetkin has always been a great boxer, but his power significantly improved after the Klitschko fight. Other heavyweights publicly accused him of doping, including one of his opponents.

Only Wilder did, as an excuse to avoid fighting him. It took Povetkin several years to achieve that strength and it wasn't like he's that muscled now, or that weak at the time.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

It is entirely on Povetkin to the best of my knowledge. Doesn't mean I'm going to say Arreola is suitable, he isn't. But I'll still watch. Hell, I'd watch if Wilder fought SaadOffTheDeck or gilgameish.

How old are you 6? Every time I don't agree with you 100% you send out a Smile. You likely have as many friends as your hero Ted Cruz. Wilder should be given credit for staying active but Arreola is a joke of an opponent.

[Tony1244]

How old are you 6? Every time I don't agree with you 100% you send out a Smile. You likely have as many friends as your hero Ted Cruz. Wilder should be given credit for staying active but Arreola is a joke of an opponent.

You and Andrew Kearney should have an insecurity contest. That would be a pick'em if there ever was a pick'em.

[Killer Blow]

Povetkin allways had great stamina, just look at him against Klitschko, he just kept on going going going, no matter how much Klitschko clinched.
And about Wilder, I don't think he's a drugsuser, despite him all of a sudden gaining quite a lot of pounds recently. But I do somehow wonder why there have never been testresults around the Szpilka fight, not before the fight, not after, as far as I know never actually, despite Szpilka asking for it several times.

Povetkin has always been a great boxer, but his power significantly improved after the Klitschko fight. Other heavyweights publicly accused him of doping, including one of his opponents.

Only Wilder did, as an excuse to avoid fighting him. It took Povetkin several years to achieve that strength and it wasn't like he's that muscled now, or that weak at the time.

Takam and others were also suspicious of him.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

How old are you 6? Every time I don't agree with you 100% you send out a Smile. You likely have as many friends as your hero Ted Cruz. Wilder should be given credit for staying active but Arreola is a joke of an opponent.

You and Andrew Kearney should have an insecurity contest. That would be a pick'em if there ever was a pick'em.

[Tony1244]

You and Andrew Kearney should have an insecurity contest. That would be a pick'em if there ever was a pick'em.

Considering you have given me 8 of those yes you do care. You're like a little girl who keeps claiming she doesn't have a crush on her little boyfriend. Give me another one and go for #9.

Yes your little Arreola is a horrible opponent.