coneye wrote: ↑10 Apr 2018, 05:51
Swear to often and it loses its meaning ,,,, There was a boy who cried wolf ,,,,, and there's Tyson , a EX champ , with no proper trainer , no future fights lined up , talking about beating a record thats been there for years , when he did'nt even defend once ,,, sort of makes you lose interest real quick
If Deontay Wilder can run 40-0-0, it's not impossible for a guy like Fury to rack up a considerable win streak as a belt holder. Has anyone taken a peak at the WBC top 40? Or any of the other organizations ratings? One could, in theory, cherry pick several fights and accomplish the deed.
Considering the Louis era was one of the weakest in history, one has to think in context. Could Louis have had 25-26 title defenses in any other era? Most likely not. So it'll be a tough task for Fury, because one can argue that the heavyweights today are better than most of Louis's title defenses.
HomicideHenry wrote: ↑10 Apr 2018, 14:26
If Deontay Wilder can run 40-0-0, it's not impossible for a guy like Fury to rack up a considerable win streak as a belt holder. Has anyone taken a peak at the WBC top 40? Or any of the other organizations ratings? One could, in theory, cherry pick several fights and accomplish the deed.
Considering the Louis era was one of the weakest in history, one has to think in context. Could Louis have had 25-26 title defenses in any other era? Most likely not. So it'll be a tough task for Fury, because one can argue that the heavyweights today are better than most of Louis's title defenses.
This is true, but Fury's problem is that he hasn't fought in years & even if he were to return & win a trinket, modern politics dictate that he'd probably only defend it 3 times a year & that's tops.
A modern boxer will never break that record because they just won't live long enough!
HomicideHenry wrote: ↑10 Apr 2018, 14:26
If Deontay Wilder can run 40-0-0, it's not impossible for a guy like Fury to rack up a considerable win streak as a belt holder. Has anyone taken a peak at the WBC top 40? Or any of the other organizations ratings? One could, in theory, cherry pick several fights and accomplish the deed.
Considering the Louis era was one of the weakest in history, one has to think in context. Could Louis have had 25-26 title defenses in any other era? Most likely not. So it'll be a tough task for Fury, because one can argue that the heavyweights today are better than most of Louis's title defenses.
This is true, but Fury's problem is that he hasn't fought in years & even if he were to return & win a trinket, modern politics dictate that he'd probably only defend it 3 times a year & that's tops.
A modern boxer will never break that record because they just won't live long enough!
Depends on whether you would count the lineal title as being the Championship, even if he didn't have an actual belt. He could fight nonentities in between mandatories for the lineal championship.
HomicideHenry wrote: ↑10 Apr 2018, 14:26
If Deontay Wilder can run 40-0-0, it's not impossible for a guy like Fury to rack up a considerable win streak as a belt holder. Has anyone taken a peak at the WBC top 40? Or any of the other organizations ratings? One could, in theory, cherry pick several fights and accomplish the deed.
Considering the Louis era was one of the weakest in history, one has to think in context. Could Louis have had 25-26 title defenses in any other era? Most likely not. So it'll be a tough task for Fury, because one can argue that the heavyweights today are better than most of Louis's title defenses.
This is true, but Fury's problem is that he hasn't fought in years & even if he were to return & win a trinket, modern politics dictate that he'd probably only defend it 3 times a year & that's tops.
A modern boxer will never break that record because they just won't live long enough!
I don’t know, we’ve seen over the last few years boxer’s fighting for titles In their very early fights. Rigo, Lomachenko. Get a medal winner through young enough and it’s possible providing they fight that many fights. Otherwise I can’t see a modern fighter be able to do it the traditional way.
HomicideHenry wrote: ↑10 Apr 2018, 14:26
If Deontay Wilder can run 40-0-0, it's not impossible for a guy like Fury to rack up a considerable win streak as a belt holder. Has anyone taken a peak at the WBC top 40? Or any of the other organizations ratings? One could, in theory, cherry pick several fights and accomplish the deed.
Considering the Louis era was one of the weakest in history, one has to think in context. Could Louis have had 25-26 title defenses in any other era? Most likely not. So it'll be a tough task for Fury, because one can argue that the heavyweights today are better than most of Louis's title defenses.
This is true, but Fury's problem is that he hasn't fought in years & even if he were to return & win a trinket, modern politics dictate that he'd probably only defend it 3 times a year & that's tops.
A modern boxer will never break that record because they just won't live long enough!
I don’t know, we’ve seen over the last few years boxer’s fighting for titles In their very early fights. Rigo, Lomachenko. Get a medal winner through young enough and it’s possible providing they fight that many fights. Otherwise I can’t see a modern fighter be able to do it the traditional way.
Let me remind you for this. Louis was the UNDISPUTED HW champion for those fights. That will never happen again.
This is true, but Fury's problem is that he hasn't fought in years & even if he were to return & win a trinket, modern politics dictate that he'd probably only defend it 3 times a year & that's tops.
A modern boxer will never break that record because they just won't live long enough!
I don’t know, we’ve seen over the last few years boxer’s fighting for titles In their very early fights. Rigo, Lomachenko. Get a medal winner through young enough and it’s possible providing they fight that many fights. Otherwise I can’t see a modern fighter be able to do it the traditional way.
Let me remind you for this. Louis was the UNDISPUTED HW champion for those fights. That will never happen again.
I don’t know, we’ve seen over the last few years boxer’s fighting for titles In their very early fights. Rigo, Lomachenko. Get a medal winner through young enough and it’s possible providing they fight that many fights. Otherwise I can’t see a modern fighter be able to do it the traditional way.
Let me remind you for this. Louis was the UNDISPUTED HW champion for those fights. That will never happen again.
Why not?
It is extremely unlikely. How many fights would you need to have just to unify, then start counting the number of defenses. I'd bet everything I had if given the proper odds.
Let me remind you for this. Louis was the UNDISPUTED HW champion for those fights. That will never happen again.
Why not?
It is extremely unlikely. How many fights would you need to have just to unify, then start counting the number of defenses. I'd bet everything I had if given the proper odds.
I get what you’re saying, it would rely on a few things. But, he could just come along and beat the undisputed champ and go on from there. It’s possible, very unlikely I admit.
Louis had the advantage of fighting in an era without this many titles and claims to the throne.
It is extremely unlikely. How many fights would you need to have just to unify, then start counting the number of defenses. I'd bet everything I had if given the proper odds.
I get what you’re saying, it would rely on a few things. But, he could just come along and beat the undisputed champ and go on from there. It’s possible, very unlikely I admit.
Louis had the advantage of fighting in an era without this many titles and claims to the throne.
OMG if we're talking FURY? It'll never happen. And I agree and wish those times of limited champs would return. UGH!
HomicideHenry wrote: ↑10 Apr 2018, 14:26
If Deontay Wilder can run 40-0-0, it's not impossible for a guy like Fury to rack up a considerable win streak as a belt holder. Has anyone taken a peak at the WBC top 40? Or any of the other organizations ratings? One could, in theory, cherry pick several fights and accomplish the deed.
Considering the Louis era was one of the weakest in history, one has to think in context. Could Louis have had 25-26 title defenses in any other era? Most likely not. So it'll be a tough task for Fury, because one can argue that the heavyweights today are better than most of Louis's title defenses.
This is true, but Fury's problem is that he hasn't fought in years & even if he were to return & win a trinket, modern politics dictate that he'd probably only defend it 3 times a year & that's tops.
A modern boxer will never break that record because they just won't live long enough!
Depends on whether you would count the lineal title as being the Championship, even if he didn't have an actual belt. He could fight nonentities in between mandatories for the lineal championship.
Pretty sure the lineal bullshit that Tyson is clinging to doesn't have mandatory challengers. It is basically the man who beat the man who beat the man and so on.
Every fight Fury has he will proclaim he is the real champion (despite every single belt he held after Klitschko being stripped).
Real champions defend their belts, not snort coke from them.
HomicideHenry wrote: ↑10 Apr 2018, 14:26
If Deontay Wilder can run 40-0-0, it's not impossible for a guy like Fury to rack up a considerable win streak as a belt holder. Has anyone taken a peak at the WBC top 40? Or any of the other organizations ratings? One could, in theory, cherry pick several fights and accomplish the deed.
Considering the Louis era was one of the weakest in history, one has to think in context. Could Louis have had 25-26 title defenses in any other era? Most likely not. So it'll be a tough task for Fury, because one can argue that the heavyweights today are better than most of Louis's title defenses.
This is true, but Fury's problem is that he hasn't fought in years & even if he were to return & win a trinket, modern politics dictate that he'd probably only defend it 3 times a year & that's tops.
A modern boxer will never break that record because they just won't live long enough!
Depends on whether you would count the lineal title as being the Championship, even if he didn't have an actual belt. He could fight nonentities in between mandatories for the lineal championship.
I don't buy into the linear title in respect of Fury.
He has been out for far too long of his own volition to try & realistically claim he is still the so-called linear champ.
Joshua is the HW champion of the world, whilst he remains active & unbeaten.
exactly,fight or shut up.