FURY VS WILDER POLL

Who won?

Tyson Fury
115
75%
Draw
27
18%
Deontay Wilder
12
8%
 
Total votes: 154

Covfefe
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Re: FURY VS WILDER POLL

Post by Covfefe »

ironbeard wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 12:53
Covfefe wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 12:50
ironbeard wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 12:50
I am not touchy at all.

I answered your question. Now, you have resorted to calling me names. Seems you are the “touchy little bitch, today.” :OhYes: Your girlfriend refuse you the strapon last night, little man?
I resorted to calling you names? You started it you ridiculous human being!
Yes, you did.

If you beg I am certain she will go deep tonight, touchy boy.
Embarrassing.

Are you going to pretend to be your wife again any time soon?
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Covfefe wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 12:54
ironbeard wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 12:53
Covfefe wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 12:50

I resorted to calling you names? You started it you ridiculous human being!
Yes, you did.

If you beg I am certain she will go deep tonight, touchy boy.
Embarrassing.

Are you going to pretend to be your wife again any time soon?
That was actually my wife, with coaching.

You really are a tender amoeba.
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Re: FURY VS WILDER POLL

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ironbeard wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 12:58
Covfefe wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 12:54
ironbeard wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 12:53
Yes, you did.

If you beg I am certain she will go deep tonight, touchy boy.
Embarrassing.

Are you going to pretend to be your wife again any time soon?
That was actually my wife, with coaching.

You really are a tender amoeba.
Of course it was, sweetheart.
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Real quality posting guys. :brick:
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Covfefe wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 12:58
ironbeard wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 12:58
Covfefe wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 12:54

Embarrassing.

Are you going to pretend to be your wife again any time soon?
That was actually my wife, with coaching.

You really are a tender amoeba.
Of course it was, sweetheart.
:shame: Sorry, Covfefe, I don’t do strapons. My wife might oblige you though, as long as I get to watch. :lol:
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Post by oogiebe »

ironbeard wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 13:06
Covfefe wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 12:58
ironbeard wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 12:58
That was actually my wife, with coaching.

You really are a tender amoeba.
Of course it was, sweetheart.
:shame: Sorry, Covfefe, I don’t do strapons. My wife might oblige you though, as long as I get to watch. :lol:
Why don't you guys take the childish antics private so I don't keep coming back expecting thoughtful posts and yet seeing more ridiculousness...thanks you.
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oogiebe wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 13:09
ironbeard wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 13:06
Covfefe wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 12:58

Of course it was, sweetheart.
:shame: Sorry, Covfefe, I don’t do strapons. My wife might oblige you though, as long as I get to watch. :lol:
Why don't you guys take the childish antics private so I don't keep coming back expecting thoughtful posts and yet seeing more ridiculousness...thanks you.
Just answering Covfefe’s questions, oogiebe.

I would love to discuss the subject rationally. I have laid out my views clearly. I have objectively examined and describe how the draw result is legitimate and why it was not a robbery.

From there it has devolved repeatedly.
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ironbeard wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 13:23 I would love to discuss the subject rationally.
:OhYes:
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ironbeard wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 13:23
oogiebe wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 13:09
ironbeard wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 13:06
:shame: Sorry, Covfefe, I don’t do strapons. My wife might oblige you though, as long as I get to watch. :lol:
Why don't you guys take the childish antics private so I don't keep coming back expecting thoughtful posts and yet seeing more ridiculousness...thanks you.
Just answering Covfefe’s questions, oogiebe.

I would love to discuss the subject rationally. I have laid out my views clearly. I have objectively examined and describe how the draw result is legitimate and why it was not a robbery.

From there it has devolved repeatedly.
So just don't add to the madness by tossing out the same lame BS as the other guy.
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With all the close rounds and the 2 knockdowns, calling this a robbery is ridiculous.

Its perfectly rational to have scored the fight for Fury though.
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DrDuke wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 13:28
ironbeard wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 13:23 I would love to discuss the subject rationally.
:OhYes:
Ok. How many rounds were close in this fight, DrDuke?

I think that 8 were very close.
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Post by oogiebe »

Tony1244 wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 13:32 With all the close rounds and the 2 knockdowns, calling this a robbery is ridiculous.

Its perfectly rational to have scored the fight for Fury though.
I can't wait to watch it as I've yet to chime in on the scoring.
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Post by ironbeard »

oogiebe wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 13:31
ironbeard wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 13:23
oogiebe wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 13:09

Why don't you guys take the childish antics private so I don't keep coming back expecting thoughtful posts and yet seeing more ridiculousness...thanks you.
Just answering Covfefe’s questions, oogiebe.

I would love to discuss the subject rationally. I have laid out my views clearly. I have objectively examined and describe how the draw result is legitimate and why it was not a robbery.

From there it has devolved repeatedly.
So just don't add to the madness by tossing out the same lame BS as the other guy.
I am not a turn the other cheek person.
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Re: FURY VS WILDER POLL

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Tony1244 wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 13:32 With all the close rounds and the 2 knockdowns, calling this a robbery is ridiculous.

Its perfectly rational to have scored the fight for Fury though.
I agree.
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Post by oogiebe »

ironbeard wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 13:36
oogiebe wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 13:31
ironbeard wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 13:23
Just answering Covfefe’s questions, oogiebe.

I would love to discuss the subject rationally. I have laid out my views clearly. I have objectively examined and describe how the draw result is legitimate and why it was not a robbery.

From there it has devolved repeatedly.
So just don't add to the madness by tossing out the same lame BS as the other guy.
I am not a turn the other cheek person.
I've said my opinion. I'd rather see facts then antics. Strap-ons are not a good argument. :brick:
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ironbeard wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 13:34
DrDuke wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 13:28
ironbeard wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 13:23 I would love to discuss the subject rationally.
:OhYes:
Ok. How many rounds were close in this fight, DrDuke?

I think that 8 were very close.
As for me, 1-5 were close, where the 2nd and the 5th were close enough to doubt on the winner, while the 1st, the 3rd and the 4th I'd name close, but still more Fury's, than Wilder's. The other remaining rounds, except KD ones, I call clearly Fury's.
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Post by ironbeard »

oogiebe wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 13:40
ironbeard wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 13:36
oogiebe wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 13:31
So just don't add to the madness by tossing out the same lame BS as the other guy.
I am not a turn the other cheek person.
I've said my opinion. I'd rather see facts then antics. Strap-ons are not a good argument. :brick:
:lol: Butt for some they are the solution.
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Re: FURY VS WILDER POLL

Post by oogiebe »

ironbeard wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 13:43
oogiebe wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 13:40
ironbeard wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 13:36
I am not a turn the other cheek person.
I've said my opinion. I'd rather see facts then antics. Strap-ons are not a good argument. :brick:
:lol: Butt for some they are the solution.
lol
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DrDuke wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 13:41
ironbeard wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 13:34
DrDuke wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 13:28

:OhYes:
Ok. How many rounds were close in this fight, DrDuke?

I think that 8 were very close.
As for me, 1-5 were close, where the 2nd and the 5th were close enough to doubt on the winner, while the 1st, the 3rd and the 4th I'd name close, but still more Fury's, than Wilder's. The other remaining rounds, except KD ones, I call clearly Fury's.
Ok, fair enough.

Then, if someone scored 2 and 5 for Wilder, all someone would have had to do to have it a draw would have been score one more of eight rounds differently than you saw them, correct?

I saw the first five exactly the opposite of what you did. That alone makes a draw legit, not a robbery.
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ironbeard wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 13:51
DrDuke wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 13:41
ironbeard wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 13:34
Ok. How many rounds were close in this fight, DrDuke?

I think that 8 were very close.
As for me, 1-5 were close, where the 2nd and the 5th were close enough to doubt on the winner, while the 1st, the 3rd and the 4th I'd name close, but still more Fury's, than Wilder's. The other remaining rounds, except KD ones, I call clearly Fury's.
Ok, fair enough.

Then, if someone scored 2 and 5 for Wilder, all someone would have had to do to have it a draw would have been score one more of eight rounds differently than you saw them, correct?

I saw the first five exactly the opposite of what you did. That alone makes a draw legit, not a robbery.
Yes, you gotta score 3 rounds, except KD ones, for Wilder to make it a draw. I can't see Wilder winning more, than 2 rounds, except KD ones, and I actually hardly doubt to give him that 2 rounds. So for me draw doesn't sound legit.
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DrDuke wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 13:59
ironbeard wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 13:51
DrDuke wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 13:41

As for me, 1-5 were close, where the 2nd and the 5th were close enough to doubt on the winner, while the 1st, the 3rd and the 4th I'd name close, but still more Fury's, than Wilder's. The other remaining rounds, except KD ones, I call clearly Fury's.
Ok, fair enough.

Then, if someone scored 2 and 5 for Wilder, all someone would have had to do to have it a draw would have been score one more of eight rounds differently than you saw them, correct?

I saw the first five exactly the opposite of what you did. That alone makes a draw legit, not a robbery.
Yes, you gotta score 3 rounds, except KD ones, for Wilder to make it a draw. I can't see Wilder winning more, than 2 rounds, except KD ones, and I actually hardly doubt to give him that 2 rounds. So for me draw doesn't sound legit.
Fair enough. I have the polar opposite view of the fight, with the exception that I do consider the draw legit, based on my acknowledgement that there were too many close rounds that could reasonably been scored either way depending on your view of the fight and environment in which you viewed it.

The judges all have different physical perspectives of the action. That alone, in a fight with as little action as this one entailed for over half of the fight, is solid ground for legitimizing the draw, even though I felt Wilder won comfortably.
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Covfefe wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 12:54
ironbeard wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 12:53
Covfefe wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 12:50

I resorted to calling you names? You started it you ridiculous human being!
Yes, you did.

If you beg I am certain she will go deep tonight, touchy boy.
Embarrassing.

Are you going to pretend to be your wife again any time soon?
:lol:
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Re: FURY VS WILDER POLL

Post by ironbeard »

Stuarty wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 14:53
Covfefe wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 12:54
ironbeard wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 12:53
Yes, you did.

If you beg I am certain she will go deep tonight, touchy boy.
Embarrassing.

Are you going to pretend to be your wife again any time soon?
:lol:
:lol: The dude proud of shoving multiple digits and his fishbait up any slimey ass that skids by chimes in.

It was a legit draw. Get over it butthurt brigade.
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Post by Stuarty »

ironbeard wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 15:03
Stuarty wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 14:53
Covfefe wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 12:54

Embarrassing.

Are you going to pretend to be your wife again any time soon?
:lol:
:lol: The dude proud of shoving multiple digits and his fishbait up any slimey ass that skids by chimes in.

It was a legit draw. Get over it butthurt brigade.
Away and finger your kid on wife ya weirdo :lol:
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Re: FURY VS WILDER POLL

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ironbeard wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 14:51
DrDuke wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 13:59
ironbeard wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 13:51
Ok, fair enough.

Then, if someone scored 2 and 5 for Wilder, all someone would have had to do to have it a draw would have been score one more of eight rounds differently than you saw them, correct?

I saw the first five exactly the opposite of what you did. That alone makes a draw legit, not a robbery.
Yes, you gotta score 3 rounds, except KD ones, for Wilder to make it a draw. I can't see Wilder winning more, than 2 rounds, except KD ones, and I actually hardly doubt to give him that 2 rounds. So for me draw doesn't sound legit.
Fair enough. I have the polar opposite view of the fight, with the exception that I do consider the draw legit, based on my acknowledgement that there were too many close rounds that could reasonably been scored either way depending on your view of the fight and environment in which you viewed it.

The judges all have different physical perspectives of the action. That alone, in a fight with as little action as this one entailed for over half of the fight, is solid ground for legitimizing the draw, even though I felt Wilder won comfortably.
I don't believe, that judges scored it that way because of what you've mentioned. I'm even not talking about this fight. The judging is corrupt everywhere. From how I understand the situation, the promoters directly affect judging. An organizing body makes everything. That's logical, orginizers spend huge amounts of money on their events. So they try to make their side win in order not spend all the money for nothing. Joshua is being given the edge in his fights, cause his promotion takes care about him well. De La Hoya's fighters are often well protected. Wilder always had an edge, so does he now. The judges can be international, that doesn't matter, they are hired to do their job by particular organizers. My point is, judges here, as always, has been giving the edge to the local fighter.
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