ironbeard wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 12:50
I am not touchy at all.
I answered your question. Now, you have resorted to calling me names. Seems you are the “touchy little bitch, today.” Your girlfriend refuse you the strapon last night, little man?
I resorted to calling you names? You started it you ridiculous human being!
Yes, you did.
If you beg I am certain she will go deep tonight, touchy boy.
Embarrassing.
Are you going to pretend to be your wife again any time soon?
ironbeard wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 12:58
That was actually my wife, with coaching.
You really are a tender amoeba.
Of course it was, sweetheart.
Sorry, Covfefe, I don’t do strapons. My wife might oblige you though, as long as I get to watch.
Why don't you guys take the childish antics private so I don't keep coming back expecting thoughtful posts and yet seeing more ridiculousness...thanks you.
Sorry, Covfefe, I don’t do strapons. My wife might oblige you though, as long as I get to watch.
Why don't you guys take the childish antics private so I don't keep coming back expecting thoughtful posts and yet seeing more ridiculousness...thanks you.
Just answering Covfefe’s questions, oogiebe.
I would love to discuss the subject rationally. I have laid out my views clearly. I have objectively examined and describe how the draw result is legitimate and why it was not a robbery.
ironbeard wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 13:06 Sorry, Covfefe, I don’t do strapons. My wife might oblige you though, as long as I get to watch.
Why don't you guys take the childish antics private so I don't keep coming back expecting thoughtful posts and yet seeing more ridiculousness...thanks you.
Just answering Covfefe’s questions, oogiebe.
I would love to discuss the subject rationally. I have laid out my views clearly. I have objectively examined and describe how the draw result is legitimate and why it was not a robbery.
From there it has devolved repeatedly.
So just don't add to the madness by tossing out the same lame BS as the other guy.
Why don't you guys take the childish antics private so I don't keep coming back expecting thoughtful posts and yet seeing more ridiculousness...thanks you.
Just answering Covfefe’s questions, oogiebe.
I would love to discuss the subject rationally. I have laid out my views clearly. I have objectively examined and describe how the draw result is legitimate and why it was not a robbery.
From there it has devolved repeatedly.
So just don't add to the madness by tossing out the same lame BS as the other guy.
ironbeard wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 13:23
Just answering Covfefe’s questions, oogiebe.
I would love to discuss the subject rationally. I have laid out my views clearly. I have objectively examined and describe how the draw result is legitimate and why it was not a robbery.
From there it has devolved repeatedly.
So just don't add to the madness by tossing out the same lame BS as the other guy.
I am not a turn the other cheek person.
I've said my opinion. I'd rather see facts then antics. Strap-ons are not a good argument.
ironbeard wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 13:23
I would love to discuss the subject rationally.
Ok. How many rounds were close in this fight, DrDuke?
I think that 8 were very close.
As for me, 1-5 were close, where the 2nd and the 5th were close enough to doubt on the winner, while the 1st, the 3rd and the 4th I'd name close, but still more Fury's, than Wilder's. The other remaining rounds, except KD ones, I call clearly Fury's.
Ok. How many rounds were close in this fight, DrDuke?
I think that 8 were very close.
As for me, 1-5 were close, where the 2nd and the 5th were close enough to doubt on the winner, while the 1st, the 3rd and the 4th I'd name close, but still more Fury's, than Wilder's. The other remaining rounds, except KD ones, I call clearly Fury's.
Ok, fair enough.
Then, if someone scored 2 and 5 for Wilder, all someone would have had to do to have it a draw would have been score one more of eight rounds differently than you saw them, correct?
I saw the first five exactly the opposite of what you did. That alone makes a draw legit, not a robbery.
ironbeard wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 13:34
Ok. How many rounds were close in this fight, DrDuke?
I think that 8 were very close.
As for me, 1-5 were close, where the 2nd and the 5th were close enough to doubt on the winner, while the 1st, the 3rd and the 4th I'd name close, but still more Fury's, than Wilder's. The other remaining rounds, except KD ones, I call clearly Fury's.
Ok, fair enough.
Then, if someone scored 2 and 5 for Wilder, all someone would have had to do to have it a draw would have been score one more of eight rounds differently than you saw them, correct?
I saw the first five exactly the opposite of what you did. That alone makes a draw legit, not a robbery.
Yes, you gotta score 3 rounds, except KD ones, for Wilder to make it a draw. I can't see Wilder winning more, than 2 rounds, except KD ones, and I actually hardly doubt to give him that 2 rounds. So for me draw doesn't sound legit.
As for me, 1-5 were close, where the 2nd and the 5th were close enough to doubt on the winner, while the 1st, the 3rd and the 4th I'd name close, but still more Fury's, than Wilder's. The other remaining rounds, except KD ones, I call clearly Fury's.
Ok, fair enough.
Then, if someone scored 2 and 5 for Wilder, all someone would have had to do to have it a draw would have been score one more of eight rounds differently than you saw them, correct?
I saw the first five exactly the opposite of what you did. That alone makes a draw legit, not a robbery.
Yes, you gotta score 3 rounds, except KD ones, for Wilder to make it a draw. I can't see Wilder winning more, than 2 rounds, except KD ones, and I actually hardly doubt to give him that 2 rounds. So for me draw doesn't sound legit.
Fair enough. I have the polar opposite view of the fight, with the exception that I do consider the draw legit, based on my acknowledgement that there were too many close rounds that could reasonably been scored either way depending on your view of the fight and environment in which you viewed it.
The judges all have different physical perspectives of the action. That alone, in a fight with as little action as this one entailed for over half of the fight, is solid ground for legitimizing the draw, even though I felt Wilder won comfortably.
ironbeard wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 13:51
Ok, fair enough.
Then, if someone scored 2 and 5 for Wilder, all someone would have had to do to have it a draw would have been score one more of eight rounds differently than you saw them, correct?
I saw the first five exactly the opposite of what you did. That alone makes a draw legit, not a robbery.
Yes, you gotta score 3 rounds, except KD ones, for Wilder to make it a draw. I can't see Wilder winning more, than 2 rounds, except KD ones, and I actually hardly doubt to give him that 2 rounds. So for me draw doesn't sound legit.
Fair enough. I have the polar opposite view of the fight, with the exception that I do consider the draw legit, based on my acknowledgement that there were too many close rounds that could reasonably been scored either way depending on your view of the fight and environment in which you viewed it.
The judges all have different physical perspectives of the action. That alone, in a fight with as little action as this one entailed for over half of the fight, is solid ground for legitimizing the draw, even though I felt Wilder won comfortably.
I don't believe, that judges scored it that way because of what you've mentioned. I'm even not talking about this fight. The judging is corrupt everywhere. From how I understand the situation, the promoters directly affect judging. An organizing body makes everything. That's logical, orginizers spend huge amounts of money on their events. So they try to make their side win in order not spend all the money for nothing. Joshua is being given the edge in his fights, cause his promotion takes care about him well. De La Hoya's fighters are often well protected. Wilder always had an edge, so does he now. The judges can be international, that doesn't matter, they are hired to do their job by particular organizers. My point is, judges here, as always, has been giving the edge to the local fighter.