Journeymen of the 2000s/10s/20s

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Galen “Bad Boy” Brown
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/57880

44-40-1
Fought at Super Middle to Heavy
NABC Americas Light Heavy Champ
NACB United States Light Heavy Champ

Fought: Prince Badi Ajamu (2006), Andrey Fedosov (2009), Chauncy Welliver (2011), Hasim Rahman (2011), Yuniel Dorticos (2015), Eddie Chambers (2015), Trevor Bryan (2016), Zhilei Zhang (2016)
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one of the most durable ones, ismail abdoul

99 fights, vs all type of top opposition at cruiser-- briedis, haye, gassiev, huck, adamek, yoan pablo hernandez, wlod, glowacki, perez, maccrinelli, etc--and only stopped once, in the 12th round of a fight

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/19825
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I thought about Emmanuel Augustus...

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/006887

Floyd Mayweather Jr
Dyosbelis Hurtado
John John Molina
David Diaz
Leavander Johnson
Leonard Dorin
Jesus Chavez
Micky Ward
Antonio Diaz
Silverio Flores
Ivan Robinson
Wilfredo Negron
Pete Talliaferro
Terrell Finger
Freddy Ladd (45-1 coming in)
"Golo" Gomez
David Toledo
Louie Leija
Carlos Vilches
Omar Weiss
Kelson Pinto
Ray Oliveira
Herman N'Gudio
Teddy Reid
Vernon Parris
Alex Trujillo
Allen Vester
Courtney Burton

Are all in his list of opponents, some of them actually on his list of victims.

That's a serious list of world champions (7) and contenders to face! He was the Angel Robinson Garcia of the 00s!
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Kirino Garcia

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/3890

Losses to Danny Green, Ikeke.
Disputed loss against David Reid.
Wins over Frankie Randall, washed up Meldrick Taylor and Boxrec Alumni Stacy Goodson.
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Also, Rob Calloway, Eric Crumble, Reggie Strickland, Donnie Penelton, Anthony Ivory.
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German Meraz
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/336267

A stepping stone type fighter for a lot of talented and undefeated up-and-comers. List of his opponents include Stephen Fulton (went the distance), King Tug, Tank Davis (went the distance), Juan Carlos Payano, Juan Francisco Estrada, and Tomoki Kameda.
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Dashon Johnson

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/446605

Went ten rounds with Jermell Charlo and Jesse Hart. Fought an unbeaten Glen Tapia, Julian Williams, and Derevyanchenko.

Also fought Joshua Clottey, Peter Quillin, and Sergio Mora. He beat a 15-1-1 Mike Gavronksi who recently lost a televised PBC fight.
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Cosme Rivera. Burst Joel Julio's bubble.
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Demetrius Jenkins
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/7840

Win some lose some light heavy who won the NABO Light Heavy title. Not any notable opponents until he hit the skids. During his eleven fight career-ending losing streak he fell to Clinton Woods and an undefeated Steve Cunningham.
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Some of these guys were probably better categorized as contenders (Barret for instance) even if journeyman is how they usually finish their careers.

A guy who had a bit of both contender/journeyman is Carson Jones. Dude could fight and probably deserved a break or two.

Two journeymen who deserve respect are Paul Delgado and Patrick Thompson. Tough, skilled, willing to travel and pretty durable. They took on some really good fighters and probably pushed few of them.

Paul Delgado: https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/57962

Patrick Thompson: https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/129941

It's also always nice to see journeyman pull one out. Thinking Grover Wiley and Pat Lawlor.

Finally a guy who was better than his record (and probably gets ranked as an "opponent" more than a journeyman) was Marteze Logan. I only saw a couple of his fights but he had some skills.

Logan: https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/144925
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AntonioMartin wrote: 09 Mar 2021, 06:51 I thought about Emmanuel Augustus...

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/006887

Floyd Mayweather Jr
Dyosbelis Hurtado
John John Molina
David Diaz
Leavander Johnson
Leonard Dorin
Jesus Chavez
Micky Ward
Antonio Diaz
Silverio Flores
Ivan Robinson
Wilfredo Negron
Pete Talliaferro
Terrell Finger
Freddy Ladd (45-1 coming in)
"Golo" Gomez
David Toledo
Louie Leija
Carlos Vilches
Omar Weiss
Kelson Pinto
Ray Oliveira
Herman N'Gudio
Teddy Reid
Vernon Parris
Alex Trujillo
Allen Vester
Courtney Burton

Are all in his list of opponents, some of them actually on his list of victims.

That's a serious list of world champions (7) and contenders to face! He was the Angel Robinson Garcia of the 00s!
No doubt. If there's a journeyman hall of fame, Augustus is a first ballot inductee
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slappy wrote: 10 Jul 2021, 21:20 Some of these guys were probably better categorized as contenders (Barret for instance) even if journeyman is how they usually finish their careers.
It’s a tough line to draw sometimes. I’d hate to disqualify anyone who’s fought for a title or two from the journeyman label, but perhaps they’d be offended themselves. Hell is it possible that sometimes even a journeyman wins a title here or there. How do you classify a Glen “The Road Warrior” Johnson for example?
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Johnson was fighter of the year and multiple title hder and THE man at 175 atone point. Id call him a late bloomer

Monte Barrett is a favorite because he beat tua and tye fields to stop their garbage hype. But he was a fringe contender not a journeyman

Carson jones is one ive ways liked. Darnell boone too. They were talented just didnt have the breaks aome guys get
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Zuri lawrence

He could fight a bit but had no power
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Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: 12 Jul 2021, 00:27 Johnson was fighter of the year and multiple title hder and THE man at 175 atone point. Id call him a late bloomer

Monte Barrett is a favorite because he beat tua and tye fields to stop their garbage hype. But he was a fringe contender not a journeyman

Carson jones is one ive ways liked. Darnell boone too. They were talented just didnt have the breaks aome guys get
he beat a badly faded tua, not much hype left at that point. tua got shut out by ustinov in his next fight then retired. prime tua would've iced both guys

he did give joe mesi quite the scare too, foreshadowed the jirov fight that basically ended joe...
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margaret thatcher wrote: 12 Jul 2021, 01:02
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: 12 Jul 2021, 00:27 Johnson was fighter of the year and multiple title hder and THE man at 175 atone point. Id call him a late bloomer

Monte Barrett is a favorite because he beat tua and tye fields to stop their garbage hype. But he was a fringe contender not a journeyman

Carson jones is one ive ways liked. Darnell boone too. They were talented just didnt have the breaks aome guys get
he beat a badly faded tua, not much hype left at that point. tua got shut out by ustinov in his next fight then retired. prime tua would've iced both guys

he did give joe mesi quite the scare too, foreshadowed the jirov fight that basically ended joe...
Prime tua lost every round to oquendo before catching him. Not saying you're wrong, but David was never even a decent boxer.
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he wasnt , but he had the power and durability to be a contender for a good 7-8 years, would eventually get to guys if they werent world class

i was surprised to see he won bronze at the world championships and olympics as an amatuer, seemed like he had a style not well suited to the ams
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How about Ross Purrity?
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/5622

More of a 90s era heavy than a 2000s. Had a win some lose some run in the 90s when he faced a slew of undefeated competition in his early career. That toughened him up for quite a run in the middle of the decade. He fought Tommy Morrison to a split draw in 1994, dropping Morrison twice along the way. He shortly thereafter knocked out Wladimir Klitschko.

He later faced and lost to Vitali in the 2000s as well as Eddie Chambers. He lost wide decisions to other up-and-coming contenders between 2000 and 2004.
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Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: 12 Jul 2021, 00:27
Carson jones is one ive ways liked. Darnell boone too. They were talented just didnt have the breaks aome guys get
:TU:
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Sedreck “Big Buck” Fields embodied the journeyman type. https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/15718

In his 22-37 career, which doesn’t reflect his quality due to the vast losing streaks he went out on, he was only stopped seven times. After defeating Shannon Briggs (32-2-1) in 2000, he went the distance with Oliver McCall, Ruslan Chagaev, Michael Moorer, and Faruq Saleem. He also faced Tye Fields (32-1) in Lafeyette, LA: Chris Arreola (15-0) in Temecula, CA; Malik Scott (28-0) in Miami, FL; Carl Drummond Davis (20-0) in San Jose, Costa Rica; Artur Marabyan (9-0) in Tyumen, Russia; and Alexander Usinov (8-0) in Kiev, Ukraine.
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bobcatbox wrote: 11 Jul 2021, 23:13
slappy wrote: 10 Jul 2021, 21:20 Some of these guys were probably better categorized as contenders (Barret for instance) even if journeyman is how they usually finish their careers.
It’s a tough line to draw sometimes. I’d hate to disqualify anyone who’s fought for a title or two from the journeyman label, but perhaps they’d be offended themselves. Hell is it possible that sometimes even a journeyman wins a title here or there. How do you classify a Glen “The Road Warrior” Johnson for example?
Good point. Harold Brazier and Mike Weaver and Kirino Garcia. Good careers but came up thr hard way!
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margaret thatcher wrote: 09 Mar 2021, 04:34 one of the most durable ones, ismail abdoul

99 fights, vs all type of top opposition at cruiser-- briedis, haye, gassiev, huck, adamek, yoan pablo hernandez, wlod, glowacki, perez, maccrinelli, etc--and only stopped once, in the 12th round of a fight

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/19825
That's amazing, especially at Cruiser.
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Chauncey Welliver, whose resume below shows him to be the "I've Been Everywhere, Man":

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/50877
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