who do you want next for conny?

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hoot wrote: 12 Dec 2021, 20:49
dr_devious wrote: 12 Dec 2021, 18:40Avenyson
Avenyson would destroy him . best fight out there for him to prove him self at top level :OhYes:
X2
Avenyson is not the right guy.
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conster beats ava, too bad con's own team arent so confident in him
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mickey1975 wrote: 13 Dec 2021, 02:33 McClellan wasn't bad! Or Barkley!
They were good , and they were good wins ,,, BUT Toney and Roy Jones were the men , with Jones beating Toney ,, Benn was good , but he stayed away from the main players
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Think Broner would be a decent matchup ,, but the guys a fruitloop probably be too hard to make , but the name dropping is good for buisness ,,, agree with Khan and Brook , unles they have really gone down hill in the last year or two , they should'nt be written of against Benn ,,, Conor has looked good especeily against Algeirs , but we know the truth he's a featherfisted semi retired boxer brought to lose because he's a name good matchmaking ,

Khan dispite being a bit chinny , is'nt so chinny when he warms up and from all accounts still fast ,, Brook has a dig ,, either one of these guys can upset the apple cart if there running at 75% of what they were ,,, Benns been looking good hitting punchbags ,, these two have looked good against the absolute best .

Conor is going to have to take hits back against any of these two , and that may suprise him ,,, but heh ,, let him talk and carry on , because if any of them two were to say Ok make it sept , The brat is gonna have to back his words up
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Why not see if Mike McCallum will come out of retirement for a British title clash?

About time Benn fought some domestic opposition
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forcefraser wrote: 13 Dec 2021, 06:50 Why not see if Mike McCallum will come out of retirement for a British title clash?

About time Benn fought some domestic opposition
Mike's too old now, I was talking to him at the Co-OP in Leeds where he was visiting his mam.
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hoot wrote: 12 Dec 2021, 20:49
dr_devious wrote: 12 Dec 2021, 18:40Avenyson
Avenyson would destroy him . best fight out there for him to prove him self at top level :OhYes:
Sahem we'll never see it.

At least Kelly had the bollocks ..
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Josesito Lopez, Broner, Avanesyan, Kavaliauskas, Essuman, McKinson, Stanionis

I'd be happy with any of them
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peter barlow wrote: 13 Dec 2021, 08:53 Josesito Lopez, Broner, Avanesyan, Kavaliauskas, Essuman, McKinson, Stanionis

I'd be happy with any of them
:TU:
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mickey1975 wrote: 13 Dec 2021, 06:52
forcefraser wrote: 13 Dec 2021, 06:50 Why not see if Mike McCallum will come out of retirement for a British title clash?

About time Benn fought some domestic opposition
Mike's too old now, I was talking to him at the Co-OP in Leeds where he was visiting his mam.
Good old Mike, a real servant to the British circuit
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Why is no one mentioning Kerman Larajagga. He’s live, dangerous and has a meaningful belt.
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Dioufy wrote: 13 Dec 2021, 09:31 Why is no one mentioning Kerman Larajagga. He’s live, dangerous and has a meaningful belt.
Because he’s fighting at 154
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 13 Dec 2021, 10:20
Dioufy wrote: 13 Dec 2021, 09:31 Why is no one mentioning Kerman Larajagga. He’s live, dangerous and has a meaningful belt.
Because he’s fighting at 154
My bad. For some reason I thought he was a welter.
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peter barlow wrote: 13 Dec 2021, 08:53 Josesito Lopez, Broner, Avanesyan, Kavaliauskas, Essuman, McKinson, Stanionis

I'd be happy with any of them
I’d be happy with those except Essuman as I think he’s a step back. Jenkins is his best win and I never particularly rated Jenkins.
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Dioufy wrote: 13 Dec 2021, 10:25
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 13 Dec 2021, 10:20
Dioufy wrote: 13 Dec 2021, 09:31 Why is no one mentioning Kerman Larajagga. He’s live, dangerous and has a meaningful belt.
Because he’s fighting at 154
My bad. For some reason I thought he was a welter.
Ava done him twice at 147 then he moved up
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maverick23 wrote: 13 Dec 2021, 10:32
peter barlow wrote: 13 Dec 2021, 08:53 Josesito Lopez, Broner, Avanesyan, Kavaliauskas, Essuman, McKinson, Stanionis

I'd be happy with any of them
I’d be happy with those except Essuman as I think he’s a step back. Jenkins is his best win and I never particularly rated Jenkins.
I think Essuman is a tough night for Benn but really it's probably the least likely fight to happen. Be interesting where Essuman goes from here.
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peter barlow wrote: 13 Dec 2021, 11:22
maverick23 wrote: 13 Dec 2021, 10:32
peter barlow wrote: 13 Dec 2021, 08:53 Josesito Lopez, Broner, Avanesyan, Kavaliauskas, Essuman, McKinson, Stanionis

I'd be happy with any of them
I’d be happy with those except Essuman as I think he’s a step back. Jenkins is his best win and I never particularly rated Jenkins.
I think Essuman is a tough night for Benn but really it's probably the least likely fight to happen. Be interesting where Essuman goes from here.
Essuman’s a decent prospect but that’s all I think at the moment. He fought Peynoud last year and whilst he was a clear winner it was still a competitive fight. Was similar to Benn’s performance in the rematch and I think Benn has stopped on massively since then and whilst I think Essuman has also improved I think he’s a level or two below Benn.
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Avanesyan or Mean Machine, neither will happen though.
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While of course Benn has been matched carefully, he also has been matched well and def has been brought on great.
The difference from when he went pro without am experience is incredible.
Who knows whether he will be good enough to be a genuine euro or world champ but most didn't think he would be good enough to win a British.
I would have picked Jenkins against him a couple of years back, but if they were matched now we would be having a right go for picking a soft option.
It's one thing bowling over soft touches without showing any craft but this Algeri fella was no mug.
What Benn demonstrated to me which is hugely important at this level was the ability not to get hit, great head and foot movement.
Furthermore he really set up the KO and showed impressive power.
The way he ducked and dived, slipping shots was reminiscent of his father.
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Coco wrote: 13 Dec 2021, 19:31 While of course Benn has been matched carefully, he also has been matched well and def has been brought on great.
The difference from when he went pro without am experience is incredible.
Who knows whether he will be good enough to be a genuine euro or world champ but most didn't think he would be good enough to win a British.
I would have picked Jenkins against him a couple of years back, but if they were matched now we would be having a right go for picking a soft option.
It's one thing bowling over soft touches without showing any craft but this Algeri fella was no mug.
What Benn demonstrated to me which is hugely important at this level was the ability not to get hit, great head and foot movement.
Furthermore he really set up the KO and showed impressive power.
The way he ducked and dived, slipping shots was reminiscent of his father.
Agreed he shown a great improvement , something in the fight though made me wonder if Chris had hurt his right hand , he certainly dd'nt throw it much , but could be he respected Benns power and did'nt want to risk a counter ,,, BUT has much has i concied Benn looked wel improved , i still say its easy to do that when the guy in front cannot hurt you and is not fighting full time , plus slowed with age . He has done very well to reach the level he's at in such a short carreer , just wish he'd shut his mouth with the hard man act he'd be a lot more likable
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benn and hearn are just a pair of con men. ..but who can blame them when there are so many mugs just lining up to put money in their pockets. just another classic example of a boxing pyramid scheme.
im half expecting them to announce pauli malignaggi as his next opponent.
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KiwiRider wrote: 12 Dec 2021, 17:33
black panther wrote: 12 Dec 2021, 04:31 Someone who presents some danger, can punch and isn't completely past it.
:lol:
That's the opposite of what's going to happen. I'd love that too.
Look at Algeri - past it, can't punch, no danger.

Yes exactly mate. You always have to question a prospect when the management avoid anyone remotely dangerous.

Do they know something - that maybe Benn can't take a punch?

His old man faced plenty dangerous fighters on the way up. Even Hatton who was relatively protected fought some punchers before Tszyu.

For me what it comes down to is do Benn and his team see Conor as merely a cash cow or a fighter with genuine World title aspirations. If its the former, they'll continue to talk about tough fights whilst avoiding them and build his hype by knocking over non punching never was or has beens.

But if its the latter they'll need to put him in with someone who presents some danger to develop him as a fighter in a multitude of ways. Nothing like facing a puncher to sharpen and test your defence and also your ability to get through moments of crisis when hurt.
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I’d like someone who has had a good win in the last 12 months.

When was Broner’s last good win?
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black panther wrote: 14 Dec 2021, 03:57
KiwiRider wrote: 12 Dec 2021, 17:33
black panther wrote: 12 Dec 2021, 04:31 Someone who presents some danger, can punch and isn't completely past it.
:lol:
That's the opposite of what's going to happen. I'd love that too.
Look at Algeri - past it, can't punch, no danger.

Yes exactly mate. You always have to question a prospect when the management avoid anyone remotely dangerous.

Do they know something - that maybe Benn can't take a punch?

His old man faced plenty dangerous fighters on the way up. Even Hatton who was relatively protected fought some punchers before Tszyu.

For me what it comes down to is do Benn and his team see Conor as merely a cash cow or a fighter with genuine World title aspirations. If its the former, they'll continue to talk about tough fights whilst avoiding them and build his hype by knocking over non punching never was or has beens.

But if its the latter they'll need to put him in with someone who presents some danger to develop him as a fighter in a multitude of ways. Nothing like facing a puncher to sharpen and test your defence and also your ability to get through moments of crisis when hurt.
I agree with a lot of what you’re saying but not sure the Ricky comparison is fair.

Ricky was a top amateur and was a pro for something like 8 years and 38 fights in when he fought Tszyu. He fought a few punchers before he fought Tszyu. If he hadn’t fought a couple of good punchers in 38 fights then it’d be a big issue.

Conor will fight anyone and he’s being matched well at the moment I think. It was only 12 months ago he’d have been in deep with Chris Jenkins.

I’d be fine with Broner next or several of the other guys mentioned. I’d also pick him to beat Avanesyan now to be honest but understand the risk/reward of them not making that fight next.
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black panther wrote: 14 Dec 2021, 03:57
KiwiRider wrote: 12 Dec 2021, 17:33
black panther wrote: 12 Dec 2021, 04:31 Someone who presents some danger, can punch and isn't completely past it.
:lol:
That's the opposite of what's going to happen. I'd love that too.
Look at Algeri - past it, can't punch, no danger.

Yes exactly mate. You always have to question a prospect when the management avoid anyone remotely dangerous.

Do they know something - that maybe Benn can't take a punch?

His old man faced plenty dangerous fighters on the way up. Even Hatton who was relatively protected fought some punchers before Tszyu.

For me what it comes down to is do Benn and his team see Conor as merely a cash cow or a fighter with genuine World title aspirations. If its the former, they'll continue to talk about tough fights whilst avoiding them and build his hype by knocking over non punching never was or has beens.

But if its the latter they'll need to put him in with someone who presents some danger to develop him as a fighter in a multitude of ways. Nothing like facing a puncher to sharpen and test your defence and also your ability to get through moments of crisis when hurt.
Did you see the first Paynard fight?
Seems so long ago now, and Benn is a lot better, but that was the only time I've seen him in real trouble.
So really I think it is just a bit of extra caution being exercised. So much unnecessary emphasis is on being unbeaten now, I'm not blaming his team for taking it slow. It isn't like he has a deep amateur career or anything.
I'm not a fan, he rubs me up the wrong way, and his celebration while Algieri still hadn't got up last weekend solidified my distaste for the guy :stop:
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