How do they even manage to pick them up and throw them while wearing boxing gloves?leejonesjnr wrote: ↑11 Sep 2023, 16:37Does that not make them trip over the hurdles?Coco wrote: ↑11 Sep 2023, 13:57Women throw lighter shot puts and javelinsleejonesjnr wrote: ↑11 Sep 2023, 13:09
I was just being childish but is the hurdles distance really different?
12 x 3 minute rounds for women's boxing
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Re: 12 x 3 minute rounds for women's boxing
Re: 12 x 3 minute rounds for women's boxing
No, I guess that is why they are lighter, so they don't trip....leejonesjnr wrote: ↑11 Sep 2023, 16:37Does that not make them trip over the hurdles?Coco wrote: ↑11 Sep 2023, 13:57Women throw lighter shot puts and javelinsleejonesjnr wrote: ↑11 Sep 2023, 13:09
I was just being childish but is the hurdles distance really different?
Re: 12 x 3 minute rounds for women's boxing
Well I guess this is a sport where fatigue could have disastrous consequences - so will need to be careful. I am all for it in theory, but we wouldn't expect a novice to compete in 3 minutes rounds not just because of lack of ability but because he might not have the "built up stamina" and two novices being absolutely fucked because they haven't got the stamina could be a disaster.
If they don't have the stamina then injuries could happen - so would need to dread carefully.
On a side note, Cameron would smash Taylor over 3 minute rounds, the way Taylor puts everything into the 2 minutes and is gasping between rounds. She has an excellent recovery but I think 3 minutes would see her getting KO'd.
If they don't have the stamina then injuries could happen - so would need to dread carefully.
On a side note, Cameron would smash Taylor over 3 minute rounds, the way Taylor puts everything into the 2 minutes and is gasping between rounds. She has an excellent recovery but I think 3 minutes would see her getting KO'd.
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Re: 12 x 3 minute rounds for women's boxing
It’s reasonably rare that novices don’t do 3s?stujones wrote: ↑12 Sep 2023, 12:07 Well I guess this is a sport where fatigue could have disastrous consequences - so will need to be careful. I am all for it in theory, but we wouldn't expect a novice to compete in 3 minutes rounds not just because of lack of ability but because he might not have the "built up stamina" and two novices being absolutely fucked because they haven't got the stamina could be a disaster.
If they don't have the stamina then injuries could happen - so would need to dread carefully.
On a side note, Cameron would smash Taylor over 3 minute rounds, the way Taylor puts everything into the 2 minutes and is gasping between rounds. She has an excellent recovery but I think 3 minutes would see her getting KO'd.
Do you mean amateurs?
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I think 12 x 3s for women will be a disaster for boxing.
Right now they look like women. There is plenty of action and it's over relatively quickly. I like the sport.
Women getting badly beaten up will be a huge red flag for me. And we will just end up with women who just about qualify as women.
The first time there's a female fatality we're fucked.
It is beyond me why anyone thinks this is a good idea.
Right now they look like women. There is plenty of action and it's over relatively quickly. I like the sport.
Women getting badly beaten up will be a huge red flag for me. And we will just end up with women who just about qualify as women.
The first time there's a female fatality we're fucked.
It is beyond me why anyone thinks this is a good idea.
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Re: 12 x 3 minute rounds for women's boxing
Would you approve of mens rounds being changed to 10 x 2s?Ezzard wrote: ↑12 Sep 2023, 12:46 I think 12 x 3s for women will be a disaster for boxing.
Right now they look like women. There is plenty of action and it's over relatively quickly. I like the sport.
Women getting badly beaten up will be a huge red flag for me. And we will just end up with women who just about qualify as women.
The first time there's a female fatality we're fucked.
It is beyond me why anyone thinks this is a good idea.
Re: 12 x 3 minute rounds for women's boxing
Yes I mean amateurs, but also aren't these youtuber things over 2 minsleejonesjnr wrote: ↑12 Sep 2023, 12:11It’s reasonably rare that novices don’t do 3s?stujones wrote: ↑12 Sep 2023, 12:07 Well I guess this is a sport where fatigue could have disastrous consequences - so will need to be careful. I am all for it in theory, but we wouldn't expect a novice to compete in 3 minutes rounds not just because of lack of ability but because he might not have the "built up stamina" and two novices being absolutely fucked because they haven't got the stamina could be a disaster.
If they don't have the stamina then injuries could happen - so would need to dread carefully.
On a side note, Cameron would smash Taylor over 3 minute rounds, the way Taylor puts everything into the 2 minutes and is gasping between rounds. She has an excellent recovery but I think 3 minutes would see her getting KO'd.
Do you mean amateurs?
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Re: 12 x 3 minute rounds for women's boxing
Ah.stujones wrote: ↑12 Sep 2023, 17:29Yes I mean amateurs, but also aren't these youtuber things over 2 minsleejonesjnr wrote: ↑12 Sep 2023, 12:11It’s reasonably rare that novices don’t do 3s?stujones wrote: ↑12 Sep 2023, 12:07 Well I guess this is a sport where fatigue could have disastrous consequences - so will need to be careful. I am all for it in theory, but we wouldn't expect a novice to compete in 3 minutes rounds not just because of lack of ability but because he might not have the "built up stamina" and two novices being absolutely fucked because they haven't got the stamina could be a disaster.
If they don't have the stamina then injuries could happen - so would need to dread carefully.
On a side note, Cameron would smash Taylor over 3 minute rounds, the way Taylor puts everything into the 2 minutes and is gasping between rounds. She has an excellent recovery but I think 3 minutes would see her getting KO'd.
Do you mean amateurs?
This is concerning professional boxing.
No idea, I don’t have any interest in YouTuber boxing.
Re: 12 x 3 minute rounds for women's boxing
No. Why would I?leejonesjnr wrote: ↑12 Sep 2023, 13:27Would you approve of mens rounds being changed to 10 x 2s?Ezzard wrote: ↑12 Sep 2023, 12:46 I think 12 x 3s for women will be a disaster for boxing.
Right now they look like women. There is plenty of action and it's over relatively quickly. I like the sport.
Women getting badly beaten up will be a huge red flag for me. And we will just end up with women who just about qualify as women.
The first time there's a female fatality we're fucked.
It is beyond me why anyone thinks this is a good idea.
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Re: 12 x 3 minute rounds for women's boxing
Same reasons you'd use for female boxing?Ezzard wrote: ↑13 Sep 2023, 08:34No. Why would I?leejonesjnr wrote: ↑12 Sep 2023, 13:27Would you approve of mens rounds being changed to 10 x 2s?Ezzard wrote: ↑12 Sep 2023, 12:46 I think 12 x 3s for women will be a disaster for boxing.
Right now they look like women. There is plenty of action and it's over relatively quickly. I like the sport.
Women getting badly beaten up will be a huge red flag for me. And we will just end up with women who just about qualify as women.
The first time there's a female fatality we're fucked.
It is beyond me why anyone thinks this is a good idea.
I'm not looking for an argument with a stranger on the internet, it was a face value question.
Its not inconceivable, another step along the way from dropping 15 rounders to 12.
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Dropping down from 15 to 12 was bad enough.
A female fatality will be far more tragic than a man dying in the ring or from injuries sustained in the ring. The last 1,000 years of art and literature is all the proof you need.
A female fatality will be far more tragic than a man dying in the ring or from injuries sustained in the ring. The last 1,000 years of art and literature is all the proof you need.
Re: 12 x 3 minute rounds for women's boxing
I respectfully disagree. Any fatality from boxing is a tragedy, however statistically rare it may be, regardless of whether the boxer is male or female. Whether the press make something of it will depend on whether it is in a televised, high-profile fight or tucked away on a small-hall undercard, just as it would be for a male fatality. As for art and literature, whether in the last 1000 years or back into the classical period, I don't see it provides any proof or evidence relevant to this. To me, history points the other way - in the 1952 Olympics, the longest individual distance that women were allowed to run was 200m, because men feared they were physiologically incapable of anything more, and look how that view has aged. And I suspect Boudicca and Tomyris would have been quite comfortable with the concept of 12 x 3s.
But each to their own - I appreciate we are unlikely to agree on this.
Re: 12 x 3 minute rounds for women's boxing
Nobody cares. The headlines for a female fatality have already been written. And if she has a kid...olij999 wrote: ↑14 Sep 2023, 09:42I respectfully disagree. Any fatality from boxing is a tragedy, however statistically rare it may be, regardless of whether the boxer is male or female. Whether the press make something of it will depend on whether it is in a televised, high-profile fight or tucked away on a small-hall undercard, just as it would be for a male fatality. As for art and literature, whether in the last 1000 years or back into the classical period, I don't see it provides any proof or evidence relevant to this. To me, history points the other way - in the 1952 Olympics, the longest individual distance that women were allowed to run was 200m, because men feared they were physiologically incapable of anything more, and look how that view has aged. And I suspect Boudicca and Tomyris would have been quite comfortable with the concept of 12 x 3s.
But each to their own - I appreciate we are unlikely to agree on this.