totally agreea force wrote: ↑21 Oct 2023, 04:32 The worst one was the completely innocent Trevor O’Neill shot dead whilst holidaying in Majorca.
The Kinahan’s had got word that one of the Hutch’s was in Majorca on holiday so sent a hitman there to kill him.
In a case of mistaken identity the hitman shot dead another Irishman Trevor O’Neill in front of his partner & children.
This was way back in 2016.
Anyone who had anything to do with MTK after that can’t complain at been called scum or anything else. They deserve all they get & shouldn’t be allowed to forget who they worked for.
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My dads got Parkinsons & doesn't feel the need to tell all the world about it.Spud wrote: ↑14 Oct 2023, 03:32As mentioned on another thread I was diagnosed with Parkinson’s a few years back and mySeanBrennan wrote: ↑13 Oct 2023, 16:27Amen. I think Spud is hoping Uncle Dan will give him a few quid for his old begging bowl fundraiser.
Wife did a fundraiser fin 2022 for the cause.
I find your mocking of that incredibly sad and pathetic.
You can be pleased with yourself I am stunned you are mocking me using my fundraiser as an excuse to verbally attack me in this way.
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a force wrote: ↑21 Oct 2023, 04:32 The worst one was the completely innocent Trevor O’Neill shot dead whilst holidaying in Majorca.
The Kinahan’s had got word that one of the Hutch’s was in Majorca on holiday so sent a hitman there to kill him.
In a case of mistaken identity the hitman shot dead another Irishman Trevor O’Neill in front of his partner & children.
This was way back in 2016.
Anyone who had anything to do with MTK after that can’t complain at been called scum or anything else. They deserve all they get & shouldn’t be allowed to forget who they worked for.
Funnily enough while having my breakfast with an ex, civil and national swarmed me as i finished me full irish. Brought off for a while . I never knew hed even been shot. They were just fishing and liked to come and grab me for anything related to irish crime, fuk em
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If you found that one , and wish you did'nt , I won't tell you to google , The snowtown murders , commonly known has the (bodied in the barrels )veriton wrote: ↑21 Oct 2023, 03:11 I had never heard of the family murders but have googled it and wish i still hadnt. these people should be at the end of a rope. And to keep it back on topic, it doesnt matter what good is done if it is on the back of money made from misery, death and the destruction of families and society.
Unbelievable these all happenned in a state with only one and half million people ,
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Terrible case that, I do wonder if the boxers don't speak out against then through fear though?SeanBrennan wrote: ↑21 Oct 2023, 13:11totally agreea force wrote: ↑21 Oct 2023, 04:32 The worst one was the completely innocent Trevor O’Neill shot dead whilst holidaying in Majorca.
The Kinahan’s had got word that one of the Hutch’s was in Majorca on holiday so sent a hitman there to kill him.
In a case of mistaken identity the hitman shot dead another Irishman Trevor O’Neill in front of his partner & children.
This was way back in 2016.
Anyone who had anything to do with MTK after that can’t complain at been called scum or anything else. They deserve all they get & shouldn’t be allowed to forget who they worked for.
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Nicola Tallant has been excellent covering it, her book is brilliant too
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reading this thread from beginning to end certainly took my mind off the grim horror on the news.
definitely not googling the South Australia family murders ever either.
bring on the weekend please
definitely not googling the South Australia family murders ever either.
bring on the weekend please
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I Googled them, absolutely mentalgolden_labrador wrote: ↑23 Oct 2023, 16:32 reading this thread from beginning to end certainly took my mind off the grim horror on the news.
definitely not googling the South Australia family murders ever either.
bring on the weekend please
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Theres not just them , . real horror reads like all them kind of things are , what is mental is the amount of them for such a small place , you gotSeanBrennan wrote: ↑23 Oct 2023, 16:42I Googled them, absolutely mentalgolden_labrador wrote: ↑23 Oct 2023, 16:32 reading this thread from beginning to end certainly took my mind off the grim horror on the news.
definitely not googling the South Australia family murders ever either.
bring on the weekend please
The Beumont children
The familly murders
Body in the barrells ( movie made , snowtown murders )
The truro cases
Peter Falconi murder ( movie made wolf creek )
Another 2 years ago , 2 girl tourist , kidnapped raped , and saved by local fishermen .
ALL IN A SMALL PLACE , and some people think Londons rough
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jesus. And you know the Body in the barrells one is not going to be about funtimes in a barrell....
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I absolutely 100% would understand why people would have strong opinions concerning MTK and the association with the kinahans.
But at the time British Boxing including the BBBofC, promoters, Managers, boxers etc etc were more than happy to deal with MTK
Its no good getting all moralistic after the event and hiding behind a screen name slagging them off.
I lost count the amount of boxers who turned to social media celebrating sigming for them.
But at the time British Boxing including the BBBofC, promoters, Managers, boxers etc etc were more than happy to deal with MTK
Its no good getting all moralistic after the event and hiding behind a screen name slagging them off.
I lost count the amount of boxers who turned to social media celebrating sigming for them.
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If the murdering drug lord Kinahan ever gets brought to justice I’d hope the likes of Macklin, Fury and his other boot lickers get called out in their shameless adoration of him. He made them all a few quid as well, they should be asked to donate some of it to charity.
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I will repeat, I fully understand peoples views, but, if boxing is so wrong for opening its doors to MTK … look at Fifa choosing Qatar holding the world cup and newcastle being sold to Saudi Arabia …Monzon83 wrote: ↑24 Oct 2023, 21:28 If the murdering drug lord Kinahan ever gets brought to justice I’d hope the likes of Macklin, Fury and his other boot lickers get called out in their shameless adoration of him. He made them all a few quid as well, they should be asked to donate some of it to charity.
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It’s undeniable that top level sport is influenced by financial corruption but you are referring to governments and ruling nations that our country has diplomatic and political relations with. The UK government has extensive trade links with Saudi for example, we don’t turn away their business when it comes to selling them fighter jets etc.Spud wrote: ↑25 Oct 2023, 04:30I will repeat, I fully understand peoples views, but, if boxing is so wrong for opening its doors to MTK … look at Fifa choosing Qatar holding the world cup and newcastle being sold to Saudi Arabia …Monzon83 wrote: ↑24 Oct 2023, 21:28 If the murdering drug lord Kinahan ever gets brought to justice I’d hope the likes of Macklin, Fury and his other boot lickers get called out in their shameless adoration of him. He made them all a few quid as well, they should be asked to donate some of it to charity.
MTK was different it was bankrolled by ongoing criminality and murder which many people in boxing actively denied. Kinahan was banned from entering the US and would be arrested if he returned to Ireland. Living as a fugitive while boxers pretend he wasn’t involved in criminality isn’t really the same as state sponsored financial backing.
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Thank you for the infoMonzon83 wrote: ↑25 Oct 2023, 06:46It’s undeniable that top level sport is influenced by financial corruption but you are referring to governments and ruling nations that our country has diplomatic and political relations with. The UK government has extensive trade links with Saudi for example, we don’t turn away their business when it comes to selling them fighter jets etc.Spud wrote: ↑25 Oct 2023, 04:30I will repeat, I fully understand peoples views, but, if boxing is so wrong for opening its doors to MTK … look at Fifa choosing Qatar holding the world cup and newcastle being sold to Saudi Arabia …Monzon83 wrote: ↑24 Oct 2023, 21:28 If the murdering drug lord Kinahan ever gets brought to justice I’d hope the likes of Macklin, Fury and his other boot lickers get called out in their shameless adoration of him. He made them all a few quid as well, they should be asked to donate some of it to charity.
MTK was different it was bankrolled by ongoing criminality and murder which many people in boxing actively denied. Kinahan was banned from entering the US and would be arrested if he returned to Ireland. Living as a fugitive while boxers pretend he wasn’t involved in criminality isn’t really the same as state sponsored financial backing.
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excellent pointMonzon83 wrote: ↑25 Oct 2023, 06:46It’s undeniable that top level sport is influenced by financial corruption but you are referring to governments and ruling nations that our country has diplomatic and political relations with. The UK government has extensive trade links with Saudi for example, we don’t turn away their business when it comes to selling them fighter jets etc.Spud wrote: ↑25 Oct 2023, 04:30I will repeat, I fully understand peoples views, but, if boxing is so wrong for opening its doors to MTK … look at Fifa choosing Qatar holding the world cup and newcastle being sold to Saudi Arabia …Monzon83 wrote: ↑24 Oct 2023, 21:28 If the murdering drug lord Kinahan ever gets brought to justice I’d hope the likes of Macklin, Fury and his other boot lickers get called out in their shameless adoration of him. He made them all a few quid as well, they should be asked to donate some of it to charity.
MTK was different it was bankrolled by ongoing criminality and murder which many people in boxing actively denied. Kinahan was banned from entering the US and would be arrested if he returned to Ireland. Living as a fugitive while boxers pretend he wasn’t involved in criminality isn’t really the same as state sponsored financial backing.
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I lived there for over 5 years. It’s actually a lovely, relatively quiet place with good beaches (if not surf beaches) and a Mediterranean climate. There are some issues with outlaw motorcycle gangs that law enforcement keeps a lid on. I think Wolf Creek was partly filmed there purely because SA is very supportive of film projects. Recent horror hit Talk To Me was filmed in Adelaide for example. I think the further you get out of the metropolitan areas the rougher it gets. Snow Town is out there, and the film was incredibly depressing if brilliantly done. But generally the South Australia metropolitan area is very safe compared to most suburbs.coneye wrote: ↑23 Oct 2023, 19:59Theres not just them , . real horror reads like all them kind of things are , what is mental is the amount of them for such a small place , you gotSeanBrennan wrote: ↑23 Oct 2023, 16:42I Googled them, absolutely mentalgolden_labrador wrote: ↑23 Oct 2023, 16:32 reading this thread from beginning to end certainly took my mind off the grim horror on the news.
definitely not googling the South Australia family murders ever either.
bring on the weekend please
The Beumont children
The familly murders
Body in the barrells ( movie made , snowtown murders )
The truro cases
Peter Falconi murder ( movie made wolf creek )
Another 2 years ago , 2 girl tourist , kidnapped raped , and saved by local fishermen .
ALL IN A SMALL PLACE , and some people think Londons rough![]()
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Spud wrote: ↑24 Oct 2023, 12:53 I absolutely 100% would understand why people would have strong opinions concerning MTK and the association with the kinahans.
But at the time British Boxing including the BBBofC, promoters, Managers, boxers etc etc were more than happy to deal with MTK
Its no good getting all moralistic after the event and hiding behind a screen name slagging them off.
I lost count the amount of boxers who turned to social media celebrating sigming for them.
I lost count the amount of murders they've just happened to an around, from David Byrne being there when Declan Gavin got stabbed sparking a feud that cost 16 lives, to going on to being a top Kinahan boy and getting his own self shot to ribbons in the Regency, that feud costing a further 18 lives, with desecrated graves and you name it
Daniel Kinahan hired a man called Alan Wilson, a monstrous creature from a satanic familg of serial killers , contract killers and hitmen, and he was found not guilty of the kidnap murder and rape of Mariorina Rostas, but read the details of the rape then tell me who you think might have been behind it. They beat the case because the main witness was an accomplice in the crime petrified of Alan Wilson , they did that.to that girl for the money paid to them after a deal with a contract with her husband in prison. These are the the type of gangsters you're talking about here
Another Wilson story
"a drug addict who who shot his best pal on the orders of a mob boss has been jailed for 17 years.
Patrick McCann, 20, Decies Road in Ballyfermot, Dublin, admitted he tried to murder Luke Wilson,19 in a park in Inchicore on January 13 last year.
"Last week Det Sgt Michael O’Brien told the judge Wilson had arranged to meet McCann in the park over a firearm.
The victim told Gardai the pair met near a bush and the defendant began searching for a weapon.
Wilson said they were walking back towards a footbridge when he saw McCann pull out a grey gun with writing on the butt.
The court heard the victim was shot once in the front of the neck.
Prosecution lawyer Paul Carroll, BL, claimed: “Luke Wilson reacted and said ‘what the f***?’”
"It was claimed McCann stood over him and shot hit the victim in the right arm and head.
Mr Carroll added: “The accused went to shoot him again but Luke Wilson said he could hear it jam.”
McCann had a number of previous convictions and was out on bail for aggravated burglary at the time of the attempted murder."
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Wilson brought his friend the gun he shot him with
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He died because the target recognised his accent and struck up a conversation with him, when the hitmen recognised him and took the shots, Trevor O'Neill was the man who died, the target making a run for it, the Kinahan hitmen assuming O'Neil was an associatea force wrote: ↑21 Oct 2023, 04:32 The worst one was the completely innocent Trevor O’Neill shot dead whilst holidaying in Majorca.
The Kinahan’s had got word that one of the Hutch’s was in Majorca on holiday so sent a hitman there to kill him.
In a case of mistaken identity the hitman shot dead another Irishman Trevor O’Neill in front of his partner & children.
This was way back in 2016.
Anyone who had anything to do with MTK after that can’t complain at been called scum or anything else. They deserve all they get & shouldn’t be allowed to forget who they worked for.
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SeanBrennan
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the Wilson's are crazyGreenLightning wrote: ↑30 Oct 2023, 20:10Spud wrote: ↑24 Oct 2023, 12:53 I absolutely 100% would understand why people would have strong opinions concerning MTK and the association with the kinahans.
But at the time British Boxing including the BBBofC, promoters, Managers, boxers etc etc were more than happy to deal with MTK
Its no good getting all moralistic after the event and hiding behind a screen name slagging them off.
I lost count the amount of boxers who turned to social media celebrating sigming for them.
I lost count the amount of murders they've just happened to an around, from David Byrne being there when Declan Gavin got stabbed sparking a feud that cost 16 lives, to going on to being a top Kinahan boy and getting his own self shot to ribbons in the Regency, that feud costing a further 18 lives, with desecrated graves and you name it
Daniel Kinahan hired a man called Alan Wilson, a monstrous creature from a satanic familg of serial killers , contract killers and hitmen, and he was found not guilty of the kidnap murder and rape of Mariorina Rostas, but read the details of the rape then tell me who you think might have been behind it. They beat the case because the main witness was an accomplice in the crime petrified of Alan Wilson , they did that.to that girl for the money paid to them after a deal with a contract with her husband in prison. These are the the type of gangsters you're talking about here
Another Wilson story
"a drug addict who who shot his best pal on the orders of a mob boss has been jailed for 17 years.
Patrick McCann, 20, Decies Road in Ballyfermot, Dublin, admitted he tried to murder Luke Wilson,19 in a park in Inchicore on January 13 last year.
"Last week Det Sgt Michael O’Brien told the judge Wilson had arranged to meet McCann in the park over a firearm.
The victim told Gardai the pair met near a bush and the defendant began searching for a weapon.
Wilson said they were walking back towards a footbridge when he saw McCann pull out a grey gun with writing on the butt.
The court heard the victim was shot once in the front of the neck.
Prosecution lawyer Paul Carroll, BL, claimed: “Luke Wilson reacted and said ‘what the f***?’”
"It was claimed McCann stood over him and shot hit the victim in the right arm and head.
Mr Carroll added: “The accused went to shoot him again but Luke Wilson said he could hear it jam.”
McCann had a number of previous convictions and was out on bail for aggravated burglary at the time of the attempted murder."
two good podcasts on them and him