P4P hardest UK Punchers atm

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fury throws with some of the worst technique for power
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aj is the best puncher for his division in the uk

the whole 'oh, but he just accumulates' stuff doesnt fly

he has blasted guys out hard, and as said, even the absolute top of the line punchers like wilder have needed plenty of 'accumulation' wins
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dookus wrote: 24 Dec 2020, 14:59
oogiebe wrote: 24 Dec 2020, 14:50 SHould Price be in the conversation?
Even though the cliché is the punch is the last thing to go, Price doesn't seem to whack like he once did.
he is defo pulling his punches these days, does not really put himself into the right hand, not sure if it's nerves or a strategy to save energy etc
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Verdi wrote: 25 Dec 2020, 11:21 Fury stopped 26 out of 31 of his amateur wins. That's a pretty damn high percentage and shows he has pretty decent power.
Tyson was a lot bigger and a hell of a lot better than nearly all of them.
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margaret thatcher wrote: 25 Dec 2020, 15:13
dookus wrote: 24 Dec 2020, 14:59
oogiebe wrote: 24 Dec 2020, 14:50 SHould Price be in the conversation?
Even though the cliché is the punch is the last thing to go, Price doesn't seem to whack like he once did.
he is defo pulling his punches these days, does not really put himself into the right hand, not sure if it's nerves or a strategy to save energy etc
He is very gunshy these days, almost like he is in a rush to bring his hand back as soon as he throws it.
I don't blame him really, he has been clobber so many times down the years his confidence is probably through the floor.
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Daft to include Fury on any p4p puncher list.
Yes he is the main man and fighter of the year, but the beating he handed out to Wilder was all about out thinking and out gaming him, psychologically dominating him. Using his physical and mental strength to bundle him over and out the picture; a phenomenal performance but not about punching power.
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Fury has decent power, probably an underrated one, but he definitely isn't a puncher, cause punchers gotta possess an ability to turn lights out with one punch. Fury is more of a volume puncher. Fury's stoppage wins are majorly technical, his opponents end up battered and tired, but not unconscious.
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DrDuke wrote: 26 Dec 2020, 05:43 Fury has decent power, probably an underrated one, but he definitely isn't a puncher, cause punchers gotta possess an ability to turn lights out with one punch. Fury is more of a volume puncher. Fury's stoppage wins are majorly technical, his opponents end up battered and tired, but not unconscious.
He rarely plants his feet and goes for power, I think he has the ability to hit harder but prefers to use speed and movement which is safer than getting drawn into a punch out.
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Controversial wrote: 26 Dec 2020, 05:58
DrDuke wrote: 26 Dec 2020, 05:43 Fury has decent power, probably an underrated one, but he definitely isn't a puncher, cause punchers gotta possess an ability to turn lights out with one punch. Fury is more of a volume puncher. Fury's stoppage wins are majorly technical, his opponents end up battered and tired, but not unconscious.
He rarely plants his feet and goes for power, I think he has the ability to hit harder but prefers to use speed and movement which is safer than getting drawn into a punch out.
When you are 6'9" and have the skills he has, you don't need to get drawn into a punch out to display your power, if you've got it. Tyson isn't a powerful man, he's huge, strong, fast, skilful and has a tremendous boxing brain. That's plenty. He's not a banger, though.
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I don't think the UK has any 'elite level bangers'. I think David Haye was possibly our last.
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Wee Tommy wrote: 25 Dec 2020, 14:01
Jimmy2020 wrote: 24 Dec 2020, 04:07
margaret thatcher wrote: 24 Dec 2020, 03:53

fury couldnt put chisora down once in 22 rounds, he dominated him but it was hardly a show of power. if you are gonna mention chis, well then whyte knocked him spark out
Good shot from Whyte that was. Speaking of Chisora further though, recently retired cruiserweight David Haye dropped Chisora and stopped him. There's an example of a p4p puncher.
A couple of my mates were in the squad with Haye, said international opponents would pull out if they had haye in the draw. He got walkovers often. His power was scary even then.
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A pal of mine sparred a couple of rounds with Haye, and while he never caught caught said that he could really feel the power taking them on his 16 ounce gloves
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Verdi wrote: 26 Dec 2020, 07:08 I don't think the UK has any 'elite level bangers'. I think David Haye was possibly our last.
Groves was arguably close - no mean feat nearly starching Froch early - but yes, Haye was clearly a level above.
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Early days but Stephen McKenna looks like he likes a KO
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i don't see how aj isnt a world class puncher

he has the best depth of opposition in the division and has still dropped or stopped all but one of his opponents

omg but for some of them it was accumulation!!! uh ya, same for everyone. like i said, look at wilder-stiverne 1, look at wilder absolutely pounding on duhaupas but not being able to drop him, having to beat on molina for 9 rounds etc. of their 3 common opponents, aj has stopped 2 of them faster. does anyone doubt wilder can punch though?

pretty much no one ever was always 1 punching guys at world level.
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Old bones Ian wrote: 26 Dec 2020, 11:56 Early days but Stephen McKenna looks like he likes a KO
he also looks very telegraphed and sloppy, even against low level opponents. he winds up way back and throws his shots from miles out. not too high on him right now, his bro looks better
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margaret thatcher wrote: 24 Dec 2020, 03:53
brilo33 wrote: 23 Dec 2020, 15:13
Jimmy2020 wrote: 23 Dec 2020, 14:40

Why not? Because this is a p4p topic. Fury is the best part of 20 stone. He can crack harder than his record suggests but he is a long, long way off being a banger at heavyweight let alone p4p. He is an awesome boxer but nowhere near the top of p4p UK punches.
so your saying fury aint a puncher though he has punched lumps out chisora which uysk couldnt do or many others,and bashed wilder in the 2nd fight to a pulp , i would say if he was an more offence fighter like in the wilder 2 fight we would be seeing this regular
fury couldnt put chisora down once in 22 rounds, he dominated him but it was hardly a show of power. if you are gonna mention chis, well then whyte knocked him spark out
oh come on maggie you cant use a fight that if they diddnt stop chisora might not have walked again as defensive for you
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Controversial wrote: 26 Dec 2020, 05:58
DrDuke wrote: 26 Dec 2020, 05:43 Fury has decent power, probably an underrated one, but he definitely isn't a puncher, cause punchers gotta possess an ability to turn lights out with one punch. Fury is more of a volume puncher. Fury's stoppage wins are majorly technical, his opponents end up battered and tired, but not unconscious.
He rarely plants his feet and goes for power, I think he has the ability to hit harder but prefers to use speed and movement which is safer than getting drawn into a punch out.
totally what iam saying , if needed tyson has the power to put fighters away like Cunningham at that time in that fight. look how he went after wilder 2 , he played with del boy like a punch bag untill they stopped it , untill the wilder fight you have never seen fury throw big shoots his chin never goes past his knee . the thing is he is still fairly young for a heavey weight to more to come
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its pound 4 pound list but most rate fighters that have just ko journey men, when i put buasti on my list its because he ko someone when the pressure was on him mid of a fight not some 1st ko
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